Suggestion for new Oceana units

[Wrana]

A turtle with ballista I would also think more of LA unit. Just snapper or something like old AD&D Dragon Turtle which breathed heated steam may be more... eh, on equal footing with all else.
There was also a thought about some "storm-demons" (summons, units or commanders), but I'm not very sure where we should steal them from. :embarassed:

[Tifone]

Yeah there was that one but I thought it has not been developed. How should they be different from the /actually existing/ storm demons? And aren't demons mostly blood summons? Maybe some big Storm Triton or such would be more fitting, even if we've plenty of tritons...

[JimMorrison]

Tifone said:
Yeah there was that one but I thought it has not been developed. How should they be different from the /actually existing/ storm demons? And aren't demons mostly blood summons? Maybe some big Storm Triton or such would be more fitting, even if we've plenty of tritons...

Unfortunately, "Demon" is a very subjective and wide reaching concept, that has in terms of game mechanics, been narrowed to a specific meaning.

There are a couple of nations who have demons summonable outside of blood, but I would think that for Oceania, you aren't even looking for "demons", per se. Something like Storm Nymphs or something, playful chaotic spirits who inhabit large bodies of water - who have little concern for mortal life, and who delight in causing mayhem more than harm, but don't really see a moral dilemna in people dying because they've gone and sunk another ship - it was too much fun to care.

Obviously aside from just not being demons, they'd also be different from the actual demons in weapon selection. They should have a Water Strike ability probably, and perhaps have a single target Sailors' Death ability for out of water. I'm not married to those spells, just throwing them out there to get the ball rolling.

[HoneyBadger]

Yeah, the demon tag just means a non-undead unit that's adversely affected by holy spells. My Partha mod will include "demons" that are just humans of the "untouchable" class (and thanks to JimMorrison for that inspiration ).

[HoneyBadger]

Here's a first draft of a manta unit, for your (possible?) viewing pleasure:

I'd happily add it as an image, directly to the thread, but I'm not quite sure how to go about doing that.

[HoneyBadger]

Here's the attack image for the manta unit.

[TheMenacer]

There should totally just be island sized giant turtles, not that I have any idea how one would fit something like that on the battlefield considering that giants are about as big as it gets, but various landmass-sized sea creatures are represented pretty consistantly throughout history, so it's time they showed up in some capacity.