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				Marignon Man at Arms
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I wonder why the Marignon Man at Arms infantry only have map move 1? They are considered Elites, and they are your only shielded troops unless you recruit cavalry. As Elites, should they not have a map move of 2? They are a great meat shield for Mari, but seriously slow down all the other troops that have map move 2. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		my guess would be because they're too busy touching themselves at night. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Omni, you are right on as usual. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Yeah, given the horrid price markup they really should be move 2, or something...though the goetics are slow anyhow. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Re: Marignon Man at Arms
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Because they are heavy infantry. 
 
I don't think any balance consideration really went into the thought process. 
 
They're still mapmove 1 in cbm but have goldcost of 12. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Re: Marignon Man at Arms
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Bigger fix for marignon:  get rid of old age, get rid of afflictions on flagellants. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		against removing the afflictions of flagellants 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Re: Marignon Man at Arms
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Yes, Flagellants' afflictions are thematic. 
Considering Men-at-arms: the usual mapmove for heavy infantry is 1. Exceptions are those who have a background of being specially trained in long marches - LA Pythium elite infantry comes to mind. Note that Arcoscephales Hoplites are Move 1, too. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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