Global War (upgraded to 3.20)

[Foodstamp]

If you want, I can check the situation for good and give a summary / recommendation. Just let me know .

[CUnknown]

I'd definitely like to hear your opinion, Foodstamp, seeing as you are the only unbiased person. Everyone else has interest in the outcome.

Zeldor - I'm not turning myself AI, heh. We're asking about Pythium and Arco.

I think everyone can agree that:

1) Good has no chance if Pythium and Arco are turned AI.
2) Good and Evil both have only a very minor chance of winning, because the Neutrals are so powerful.
3) Evil's chance of winning does increase nicely if Pythium and Arco are turned AI, although it is still low.
4) One player shouldn't be playing 2 or 3 factions.
5) Delaying the game until two subs are found would be a long delay, and long avoidable delays are not generally good things.

May I suggest a compromise?

Let's delay the game until a sub is found for Pythium. If Arco refuses to return to the game, then we set him AI. However, all of his gold/gems/magic items are sent to Good first.

If a sub can't be found for Pythium within a week, let me take another of Pythium's turns, and then we wait another week for a sub?

[Zeldor]

CUnknown:

Well, only neutrals count now, so turning all good and evil AI would just speed up inevitable. Or we can finish the game as is and start new edition, with better map, rules and player selection.

[Baalz]

THE BURNINATOR DOES NOT CONCEDE THAT THE GAME IS LOST TO HIM. IF GOOD IS FINISHED, ABYSSIA IS EFFECTIVELY THE WEAKEST OF 4 NEUTRALS - BUT AT LEAST IN THE SAME BALLPARK. UNLESS I MISUNDERSTOOD THE RULES THE NEUTRALS MUST FIGHT AMONGST THEMSELVES TO WIN. ABYSSIA IS CERTAINLY THE LEAST ATTRACTIVE TARGET FOR ANY NEUTRALS TO ATTACK AS NOT ONLY ARE THE OTHER NEUTRALS A BIGGER THREAT, BUT ALSO MY DEFEAT MEANS GOOD WINS BY MERELY HOLDING THEIR OWN 5 CAPITALS.

[IndyPendant]

Well, Baalz has swayed me with his argument. I do agree with Rathar that one player controlling multiple nations does give Good 'unfair' advantages it would normally not have...but if it's a choice between that and Good collapsing completely, I do prefer the game to continue. We really need to find a replacement asap though.

As to delaying the game: Please. No delays. No more. I can't take it. I'll agree to anything if it avoids any more damned delays! (Only slightly joking. ; ) If we absolutely must, we can delay. But if there's any other option (such as CUnkown continuing to play the nation until a replacement is found), then it has my vote.

[Rathar]

Sounds reasonable.

[CUnknown]

Okay, so we are going to continue with the game, and look for a replacement for Pythium? But, Arco will be set AI and all his stuff sent to Good. If no replacement is found, I will take Pythium's turn again. Everyone agrees?