VOTD-Still like it

MaxWilson · #1 July 31st, 2008, 04:47 PM

Ah, then. Around turn 20, MR should do fine. 150 pearls to spam VotD through MR is a huge investment at that point.

-Max

Kuritza · #2 July 31st, 2008, 04:51 PM

6 pearls, Max, just 6.

And it happens much more often that it might seem. Just a few days ago I had my 31 MR ghost king paralyzed by three illithids spamming mind blast.

The difference is, I knew that illithids are supposed to spam mind blast and that I open my GK to a huge risk. I took that risk voluntarily, I could opt to avoid them instead. Illithids dont come after you shaking tentacles and frying your brain when you cower in fear in your capitol, doing research and forging items. Zombies do.

MaxWilson · #3 July 31st, 2008, 05:03 PM

How can you reliably kill an MR 27 thug with VotD and 6 pearls? That's just a fluke. I'm not sure if 150 is the right number, but it's way more than 6.

-Max

thejeff · #4 July 31st, 2008, 05:09 PM

Has anyone run tests on the MR part of this? I believe the MR roll for Mind Hunt Soul slays is easier than for battlefield soul slays. Is there a chance VotD works the same way?

Kuritza · #5 July 31st, 2008, 05:41 PM

Well, its not that reliable... Happened to me, though I admit I was unlucky. It also happened to me when I didnt knew VotD is bugged. Imagine my surprise.
Its a gamble, but its a gamble with very high stakes. Too high, in my opinion, and I dont like the fact that you have to gamble wherever you like it or not, as long as your opponent is willing to pay 3 pearls.

MaxWilson · #6 July 31st, 2008, 06:28 PM

Slight correction: your opponent can *force* a gamble. His job is to mess you up, that's why he's called the enemy. I don't really like VotD thematically (I think you should wake up from the nightmare at round 50) but it's not a problem IMO if your opponent has options for low-probability instant kills. Dominions is explicitly designed so that a lowly slinger can kill a Doom Horror with a single stone with the right rolls. Total invulnerability is boring and unthematic.

(I wish resistances didn't go up to 100% for the same reason.)

-Max

Kuritza · #7 July 31st, 2008, 06:42 PM

A slinger cannot. But I was like OMG once, when barbarians killed my Archdevil. He stood amongst them imprevious, and then just died... It took me almost an hour to notice that my opponent has armed one of barbarian chiefs with a flamebeau and he scored an instant kill.