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August 5th, 2008, 11:41 AM
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Re: Pretender concept: Messianic Figurehead
Are woodsman archers small?
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August 5th, 2008, 03:19 PM
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Re: Pretender concept: Messianic Figurehead
I'm kind of concerned that size (2), 14 HP, and starting dominion of 1 will render him absolutely untouchable. For some reason I had been imagining something..... A little more heroic.
Would be hilarious if he summoned Flagellents, to go with his inability to provide a bless. 
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August 5th, 2008, 04:10 PM
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Re: Pretender concept: Messianic Figurehead
I was thinking on defaulting him with Awe and supplies, but left that for after the test run.
So... more HP would be in order? I sort of wanted to keep him out of the absolute SC (as in, by themselves, and straight out of the box, like the Wyrm)group...
Maybe a drastic increase in marksmanship would be in order too. After all, this is supposed to be some kind of champion...
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August 5th, 2008, 04:18 PM
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Re: Pretender concept: Messianic Figurehead
With 14 HP no one would ever want to commit him to melee (maybe a recruited thug, but not your pretender!).
With 120 path cost, no one would ever use him as a caster.
Taking a pretender whose only benefit would ever be hanging out in the back of the army, providing a Morale boost for the archers - is never going to happen.
It just seems to me, that as the type of hero you are describing, and being that he lacks the ability to provide a good bless or any magical diversity - he HAS to be an amazing combatant, in some way. So he's going to need at least 30 HP base, and Awe would be an excellent choice as well. Recuperation could help, as well as a small regen, so he can really wade in, and as long as he survives, he will ultimately be fine.
You can easily engineer him in a way that lowly troops are no match for him, but that it isn't too easy to make him a solo army destroyer.
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August 5th, 2008, 04:58 PM
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Re: Pretender concept: Messianic Figurehead
hm, true. Besides, he sorely needs some sort of reinvirgoration to cope with the huge encumbrance of the armor...
Code:
#newmonster 2906
#name "Prophesied Warrior"
#copyspr 65
#descr "The Prophesied Warrior has been heralded as the one foretold to save the nation from certain destruction. He is a mighty warrior, profficient at ranging undetected through enemy territory, knows the healing herbs of the land, and a charismatic battle commander. When he rises his banner, the small people of the realm will flock to him. However, his magical abilities are rather limited, relying on his companions to do his spellcasting"
#mapmove 2
#ap 14
#hp 30
#size 2
#prot 0
#str 15
#enc 2
#att 14
#def 14
#prec 15
#mr 18
#gcost 0
#rcost 1
#pathcost 120
#startdom 1
#weapon 266
#weapon 258
#armor "Full Plate Mail"
#armor "Full Helmet"
#forestsurvival
#mountainsurvival
#wastesurvival
#stealthy 10
#startage 22
#maxage 200
#older 6
#healer 5
#awe 2
#reinvirgoration 8
#standard 20
#makemonster5 126
#superiorleader
#itemslots 64646
#nametype 100
#eyes 2
#end
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August 5th, 2008, 06:02 PM
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Re: Pretender concept: Messianic Figurehead
Using #summon or #domsummon instead of #makemonsters would cause the troops to flock to him automatically. I don't think I'd spend a turn of "Pretender Time" to summon five puny Woodsmen unless I was really desperate....
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August 5th, 2008, 09:37 PM
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Re: Pretender concept: Messianic Figurehead
hm, thing is, I hate domsummons. What if I changed it from poxy archers to some sort of heavy cavalry? (as in his household knights)
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