MP: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !

[DonCorazon]

Firewalker! Welcome back.
I don't necessarily object to R'yleh/Ermor, but would vote against them if there were a vote.

[Janlm]

Originally Posted by DonCorazon

Firewalker! Welcome back.
I don't necessarily object to R'yleh/Ermor, but would vote against them if there were a vote.

If you have no objection, whats that post about then?

Anyways, I've never played la r'lyeh before, and i can promise you i'm not a very good player. So if r'lyeh is overpowered or not won't matter much really

[Hoplosternum]

Originally Posted by Janlm

If you have no objection, whats that post about then?

Anyways, I've never played la r'lyeh before, and i can promise you i'm not a very good player. So if r'lyeh is overpowered or not won't matter much really

The question you have to ask yourself Janlm is do you want to play them

No one can have you next door without suffering badly so people will gang up on you early and often. You are killing off a lot of diplomatic options for the (all be it decent) chance to win by taking a very powerful but very toxic power.

If you want to be enemy number one then keep R'yleh. But whether you are good or not won't stop your dom killing off your neighbours pop or driving their leaders mad. So you won't have many friends even if you are propping up the score graphs

[Janlm]

I don't care, I just wanted to try them out finaly... but whatever, I didn't want to start some kind of whine contest about wether or not they are overpowered(I guess its better with one water nation with 40 water provinces all for himself). If this has to get to some kind of vote or whatever, i'll rather just withdraw from the game right away.

Originally Posted by Hoplosternum

The question you have to ask yourself Janlm is do you want to play them

No one can have you next door without suffering badly so people will gang up on you early and often. You are killing off a lot of diplomatic options for the (all be it decent) chance to win by taking a very powerful but very toxic power.

If you want to be enemy number one then keep R'yleh. But whether you are good or not won't stop your dom killing off your neighbours pop or driving their leaders mad. So you won't have many friends even if you are propping up the score graphs

[Kheldron]

Wow, I didn't think I would have started such a riot with a simple poll.
Well I'm of course kind of biased since Atlantis is better suited than most to go after LA Rlyeh and I never played against them in MP.

I'm sorry if it hurts you in any way Janlm, it clearly wasn't my intention.
Don't you want to enlist with another nation ?

[DonCorazon]

Originally Posted by Janlm

If you have no objection, whats that post about then?

It wasn't clear to me from the game organizer's post whether there was going to be a vote or not. The meaning of my post was

1) if there was no vote, I wouldn't object - eg I'd be willing to play and wouldn't withdraw.

2) if there was a vote, I'd vote against having either Ermor and R'yleh in the game.

He left it open and I exercised my right to vote. No big deal.

[Kheldron]

Well I think all of this came from lack of leadership from my part. I should have stated things and rules more clearly.

To sum up, it seems Rlyeh indeed gets a lot of bad karma so we'll try to avoid that. As you stated, Alexander and its 40 water provinces may not be the right map for a single water nation, despite all the amphibious Atlantis, Patala and Mictlan.

Janlm, I present you my sincerest excuses for all of this. Just tell us if you want to play another nation.

[Kheldron]

Janlm told he wouldnt come back for another nation.It seems there's room for another player. One last then.

[Hoplosternum]

Originally Posted by Kheldron

Janlm, I present you my sincerest excuses for all of this. Just tell us if you want to play another nation.

I am sorry too I didn't mean to drive him away.

But you can't casually play LA Ermor or LA R'lyeh. They are not like other nations. Not only are they very strong but even if played badly or by the AI they really affect their neighbours. It is almost a pre game declaration of war on all your neighbours.

[Firewalker]

Hey, guys --

Sounds like we are delayed a bit, but I just wanted to let you know I'll be getting my pretender uploaded after work tonight (5-6pm-ish CST). Looks like I am the last to get it in.