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Old May 11th, 2002, 03:09 AM
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Phantom Menace was on Fox Last night here in Philly. Reminded me all over again how irritating Jar Jar was .... and what a lame story that movie had.

The Attack of the Clones is by all reports way better, more serious and Jar Jar is only making a very, very brief appearance. Yeah! Hopefuly Jar Jar meets Darth Vader in Episode 3
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and what a lame story that movie had.
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It's the opening! Openings are not supposed to come with the destruction of the death star!

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and what a lame story that movie had.
... I just can't stress this enough...
... for the very Last time...

It's the opening! Openings are not supposed to come with the destruction of the death star!


But before Phantom Menace, 66.6% of the movies had included a Death Star exploding at the end ..... These movies set high expectations.
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I personally think and firmly believe the Death Stars were not built to stomp out the rebels. The Empire was goign to test hem on the rebels, then launch an all out assault against Jar-Jar Binks.
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and what a lame story that movie had.
... I just can't stress this enough...
... for the very Last time...

It's the opening! Openings are not supposed to come with the destruction of the death star!


But before Phantom Menace, 66.6% of the movies had included a Death Star exploding at the end ..... These movies set high expectations.

maybe this big bad ship they shot is a death star prototype? or in episodes 2 and 3 will be real death star exploding?
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Well, I also was very disappointed with the writing and story in Phantom Menace. Some of the nicer elements of the first trilogy, such as the Force with its elements of mystery and eastern mysticism, were completely junked for some lame attempt to make at all scientifically and biologically logical. Bad idea. Didn't work.

Then there was the overall plot of the movie, which to me seemed like it was written by a brain damaged 12 year old. I think they aimed it mostly at 3rd graders which was another mistake. I thought it was completely unoriginal, pompous, predictable, clichéd and self congratulatory. By the Last, I mean they fell in love with the computer generated character technology and used it to create the most obnoxious and irritating characters just because they could. Either that or they genuinely thought they were cute. No, that's just too scary to even contemplate.

Lucas hadn't made a movie in 20 years and it showed. He tried to make a 1970s movie when the Sci-Fi genre bar has been raised so much higher since then. Star Wars moved space opera and Sci-Fi out of the B and C movie doldrums but now its a whole new world. After movies like Blade Runner, Aliens, Terminator, etc., Phantom was just a boring afterthought. Heck, Farscape is more original has better effects and much better writing every single week. Now THERE is space opera the way it should be.

Now after "kiddie speed racer" in the first movie, what's next, "teenage love"? Oh spare me.

Don't get me wrong, I loved Star Wars. A lot. Still do. That's why it's so painful to watch Lucas making such an *** of himself. He should have stuck with special effects and left his legacy and reputation intact. JMHO.

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(Spoiler warning, I guess, for those who have been waiting to see Star Wars Episode I... )

Completely unbelievable/lame/stupid and ridiculously overdone things in Episode I:

1. The "underground and underwater chase" scene where even the actors are bored as a completely ridiculous computer animation scene plays behind them, with too-big and too-fast fish eating each other so quickly that no environment could possibly explain their existance. From a cinematic perspective, these monsters lacked all of the tension, mystery, and timing found in monsters in earlier SW movies. Compared to say, the trash compactor monster, these are just so badly presented. They'd make an OK short animation show off film, but that's all.

2. The pod race. Completely unbelievable and uninteresting on many levels. In the first place, it was simply shown too fast. Everything moved and changed direction so quickly and unbelievably that again, it just looked completely fake and unbelievable. The way vehicles in SW moved used to be one of the strong points - the movement wasn't strictly explainable in terms of physics in the other films, but at least it looked like there was some logic behind their movements. The racing pods just looked ridiculous, most of all the way they moved, and the speed at which they moved. The reflex requirements would be like 100 times that required for any of the other maneuvers in any of the other films. Also, the deaths during the race had so little tension or "gravity" to them... like the underground/underwater chase, it was just like a bad hallucination.

3. The ground battle. Much less believable and less interesting and with much less sense of tension than the ground battle in The Empire Strikes Back, or the boarding combat in the first movie (or, to be fairer, than the brief CGI opening war scenes in the recent The Fellowship of the Ring). It's OBVIOUSLY a bunch of CGI animation, with extremely overused animation for the Gungan infantry. It just looked like a futuristic RTS computer game engagement - both armies stand out in the complete open, not bothering to take cover at all, etc. Predictable/unbelievable "water versus metal" weapons - argh. No terror or war whatsoever.

4. The Space Battle. Again, the fighter battle in the first movie was the most believable, tense, and interesting. Here the movements are overdone and unbelievable, no one really seems like a person who is facing death, and of course, Anakin. Anakin, the little kid, what, accidentally gets into a fighter and intuitively figures out the controls and becomes a mega-legendary ace instantly? Uh huh. I guess as Darth Vader he just lost his knack at wiping out targets a dozen at a time, or specialized TIE fighters are just a massive step backwards from these goofy Naboonese provincial designs? Then, what, he flies inside the enemy ship ... and manages to "turn off" all the battle droids... mhmm, ya, sure, whatever...

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