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September 14th, 2008, 08:42 PM
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Re: You can't complain that this game is costly
Well I've played AoW and time in dominions is going far over 20x what I played that with modding etc etc  I can't imagine you spend as much time on AoW as you are doing on Dom 3 Sombre but if you say so..
Sure free games screw up the formula but considering my income you'd need to take installing the game in to the equation so that gives all games a price  you're busy at least like 15-30 min with it.. thats like 5 E - 10E so that makes dom 3 like 55 E and other games 5 E -10 E.. so then you'd only need to spend 5-11x as much time or have that much more fun with dom 3
.. ok all going a bit far maybe but comparing with free games is just abusing a loophole in the equation
I still think that for pplz into these kinds of games paying about 20 E extra for dominions compared to nearly all other games will give them MUCH more value for their coin.
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September 15th, 2008, 11:03 AM
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Re: You can't complain that this game is costly
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Well I've played AoW and time in dominions is going far over 20x what I played that with modding etc etc I can't imagine you spend as much time on AoW as you are doing on Dom 3 Sombre but if you say so..
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I didn't say so or imply so. Did you actually read my post? I said Dom3 is one of my top games, but I am biased. When advising others in terms of game purchases, I would maintain a far more objective view, which is that Dom3 is not great value for money. How much time I spent on it isn't relevant. Hell I don't play AoW at all, but I recognise it's damn near as good as Dom3 at a fraction of the price.
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I still think that for pplz into these kinds of games paying about 20 E extra for dominions compared to nearly all other games will give them MUCH more value for their coin.
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Except that Dom3 costs more than an extra 20E over a huge number of excellent games.
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Im not sure if this is the type of game which would make a really big jump in sales based only on the price. The number of players which would enjoy a game like this seems fairly fixed. Maybe if it was "prettier" by new game standards you could sell quite abit based on cost alone.
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Well I just gave an example of people who would probably buy it if it was cheaper. My friends. Again, I'm not trying to tell Shrapnel how to do their job. I'm just unwilling to ignore topics like "You can't complain this game is costly"
I find the 'if you can't afford 50 bucks you're a joke' attitude in here pretty silly too. For one thing, it's far more than 50 bucks for a lot of people. I ordered dom3 when I was in China. Not only did it cost more than 50 bucks total, it also cost me a substantial chunk of my wages. Plenty of people won't spend 50+ on a game when there are far cheaper alternatives available, regardless of the 'just skip going out one night of the week' BS you spoiled students are coming out with. If you're going to compare it with the cost of other things, make them comparable eg. other strategy games that have been out as long as dom3 (or have other similarities).
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September 16th, 2008, 12:49 AM
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Re: You can't complain that this game is costly
I've beat this horse to death every time this debate comes up.
As long as the game costs basically 60 dollars comparable to games that have millions and millions in devlopment costs while looking like it does.. Then factor in its age.
I wont be able to get any one to purchase it..
And the whole Dom3 will give them the best cost to play ratio.. Thats a horrible argument cause not everyone will like dom3.. Its a great game for me but not something everyone is going to like. So they gotta take into account prices and such.
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September 16th, 2008, 02:14 AM
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Re: You can't complain that this game is costly
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And the whole Dom3 will give them the best cost to play ratio.. Thats a horrible argument cause not everyone will like dom3.. Its a great game for me but not something everyone is going to like. So they gotta take into account prices and such.
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No, they need to play the demo. I didn't buy Dom3 until I realized that I couldn't enjoy other games anymore. I was bewitched, ensorceled, and seduced.
Last I checked, no one wanted to hear anyone complain about the graphics. If your friends directly relate graphical quality to gaming enjoyment, then they may as well shovel out $30 at a time for whatever titles are falling off the best seller lists. And they can do that over, and over, and over again. Meanwhile, I'll still be playing Dom3.
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Oh and PS- The graphical "style" perhaps isn't what is in vogue right now, but most of the sprites are actually rather high quality, and most of the maps (not random maps) are quite lovely. They just don't jump out at you in full 3D and yell BOOM HEADSHOT. :P
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September 16th, 2008, 03:27 AM
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Re: You can't complain that this game is costly
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I was bewitched, ensorceled, and seduced.
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Hey, same effect on me too ^^
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Oh and PS- The graphical "style" perhaps isn't what is in vogue right now, but most of the sprites are actually rather high quality, and most of the maps (not random maps) are quite lovely. They just don't jump out at you in full 3D and yell BOOM HEADSHOT. :P
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Actually, I must say I like the graphics a lot. Can't explain why but I fall for them. I always liked 2d (Abe's oddissey, besta frigging game eva) and Dom3 has a lot of quality sprites. Yeah random maps could be better, they could have used the "old style map" effect of some of the maps instead of those strange trees and mountains around on my paper
PS hey, I may be wrong but I didn't see you around these last days Jim. If I'm right welcome back ^^
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September 16th, 2008, 04:18 AM
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Re: You can't complain that this game is costly
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Originally Posted by Theonlystd
And the whole Dom3 will give them the best cost to play ratio.. Thats a horrible argument cause not everyone will like dom3.. Its a great game for me but not something everyone is going to like. So they gotta take into account prices and such.
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No, they need to play the demo. I didn't buy Dom3 until I realized that I couldn't enjoy other games anymore. I was bewitched, ensorceled, and seduced.
Last I checked, no one wanted to hear anyone complain about the graphics. If your friends directly relate graphical quality to gaming enjoyment, then they may as well shovel out $30 at a time for whatever titles are falling off the best seller lists. And they can do that over, and over, and over again. Meanwhile, I'll still be playing Dom3.
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Oh and PS- The graphical "style" perhaps isn't what is in vogue right now, but most of the sprites are actually rather high quality, and most of the maps (not random maps) are quite lovely. They just don't jump out at you in full 3D and yell BOOM HEADSHOT. :P
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i dont find the demo to be the best representation of the game and well its a nonstarter with the games price .
And graphics dont have alot to do with the enjoyment of the game for them. But those fancy graphics are a large part of why games with the spiffy graphics cost 50,60 dollars. You have to have a team of artists for quite some time to work on em.
The sprites arent bad.. But id hardly say the "style" isnt in vogue.. This "style" isnt going to suddenly become in style again.. 2d sprites arent going to make some kind of come back..
And i pretty much play exclusively on random maps and they look pretty meh..
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