Mod New Nation: Dragons, Magic Incarnate V1.01 - Page 14

Loren · #1 December 25th, 2008, 05:02 PM

This is the toughest one so far but I think I'm going to win it despite some miserable luck.

Mictlan is gone. I'm at war with Ermor. Assassins aren't holding the line very well, I'm having to keep a whole bunch of dragons on the battle line to hold them off.

I think I must have taken misfortune 3 instead of luck 3, though. Tien Chi is in the water and being a nusiance so I decide to sweep him out. 60 flame tongues go in--and Thestis' Blessing gets knocked out!

Idiots, it was dispelled during the magic phase, why did you go fly into the water and drown???

Then my guys discovered Phoenix Pyre: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=41737

Aezeal · #2 December 27th, 2008, 01:06 PM

Hey loren in your fix for deathwraiths.. are they still magical beings?

Loren · #3 December 27th, 2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aezeal

Hey loren in your fix for deathwraiths.. are they still magical beings?

Yes. I didn't actually change any properties, just messed with the text. Either there was a hidden typo or something about the order of the properties messed up the game.

I've got one on the screen, it shows:

Death-6
Holy-2
Research-8
Fear
Shock resist-50
Fire resist-25
Cold resist-100
Poison resist-100
Magic Being
Ethereal
Flying
Stealthy
Pillage Bonus
Recuperation
Darkvision-100
Assassin

Aezeal · #4 December 27th, 2008, 02:48 PM

ok I thought it might've been to much abilities on a creature and magic being was the last... so I guess that isn't it either
gotta love the dragons and all their abilities

Loren · #5 December 27th, 2008, 09:10 PM

At least for SP it's still got balance problems: A pure Ghost/Flame Tongue strategy won it without too much difficulty.

The only actual real use I made of the summons was to cast some globals.

I had enough summons at the end to use in battle but it all that did was speed things up by a couple of months.

At the point I declared it won I had all access to the enemy blocked off by a minimum of 50 flame tongues and I was pushing dominion out. Had I just kept hitting End Turn I probably would have won it eventually.

rdonj · #6 December 27th, 2008, 09:36 PM

I don't think it would be nearly so easy in mp, you'd make enemies very fast if you went around assassinating everyone's commanders, and a player at least will put guards on them. I actually lost a few early on in my game against ermor to ghost grips and or fear. Plus I imagine you must expand a lot more slowly than most nations.

That said an ethereal 35 hp assassin with 3 attacks (one of which is ap) and 14 attack skill is a bit much. They need to be either ridiculously expensive (upwards of 400 gold, non-sacred), lose most of their attacks, lose ethereality, be a summon, or get a massive attack skill nerf. Possibly a combination of several of the above. I really don't think they should have 3 attacks, especially.

Aezeal · #7 December 28th, 2008, 09:44 AM

I've started (for dom 3000 it's already uploaded) to just make them cost 300 gc.. 150% increase. For the future I'm thinking about lowering HP by 5, att by 1, str by 1 and loose one attack. But since the troops where not so strong I'll let them have this advantage for now. Especially in dom 3000 they might be just what the nation needs. And indeed with a few strong guards they might be defeated more easily.

PS Loren are you interested in playing a nation in our upcoming dom 3000 game (you could have dragons though with the serious playtesting you've already given them, thanks again btw, I suspect they will be one of the nations with fewer flaws left.)

Loren · #8 December 28th, 2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Aezeal

I've started (for dom 3000 it's already uploaded) to just make them cost 300 gc.. 150% increase. For the future I'm thinking about lowering HP by 5, att by 1, str by 1 and loose one attack. But since the troops where not so strong I'll let them have this advantage for now. Especially in dom 3000 they might be just what the nation needs. And indeed with a few strong guards they might be defeated more easily.

PS Loren are you interested in playing a nation in our upcoming dom 3000 game (you could have dragons though with the serious playtesting you've already given them, thanks again btw, I suspect they will be one of the nations with fewer flaws left.)

I'm not all that good a player actually but it might be interesting.

Aezeal · #9 December 28th, 2008, 04:44 PM

Well I'm not a good player either so that is good to hear

Would you prefer the dragons or another nation (you have first pick on dragons.. for other ones you'll have to be first to sign up for them in the thread on the MP forum (which I will create somewhere next week unless there emerge huge bugs I need to fix before we can play.)

Loren · #10 December 29th, 2008, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Aezeal

Well I'm not a good player either so that is good to hear

Would you prefer the dragons or another nation (you have first pick on dragons.. for other ones you'll have to be first to sign up for them in the thread on the MP forum (which I will create somewhere next week unless there emerge huge bugs I need to fix before we can play.)

Dragons are the only one I've played with so I'll take them.