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Old October 28th, 2008, 07:12 AM
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fact of the matter is you have other archers to buy, they aren't massively expensive so just get some of them to cast flamming arrows on.

the other fact is snake poison(they should be practicly milking it of those hydras) doesn't burn.

snake poison is made of water (doesn't burn) and peptide toxins (protein polymers, like plastic but not as complex - also doesn't burn)

burning is caused by respiration (oxygen + fuel = energy + waste materials), our bodies do it all the time to create energy (heat included) but we need glucose (which if not burned turns into fat which can be burned) to burn, we can't burn protein.

so yeah poison don't burn or more they do but at such a massive temperature that the aura of heat would burn to death the archers firing the arrows.

the poison burns of - MYTH BUSTED
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Old October 28th, 2008, 08:50 AM
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snake poison is made of water (doesn't burn) and peptide toxins (protein polymers, like plastic but not as complex - also doesn't burn)

so yeah poison don't burn or more they do but at such a massive temperature that the aura of heat would burn to death the archers firing the arrows.

the poison burns of - MYTH BUSTED
Pardon me, but proteins are affected by heat and can burn. Look at a burnt steak, for instance. Some peptide toxins don't even need to catch fire to be deactivated by heat - normal cooking temperatures of ~70 degrees C do the job nicely.
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fact of the matter is you have other archers to buy, they aren't massively expensive so just get some of them to cast flamming arrows on.

the other fact is snake poison(they should be practicly milking it of those hydras) doesn't burn.

snake poison is made of water (doesn't burn) and peptide toxins (protein polymers, like plastic but not as complex - also doesn't burn)

burning is caused by respiration (oxygen + fuel = energy + waste materials), our bodies do it all the time to create energy (heat included) but we need glucose (which if not burned turns into fat which can be burned) to burn, we can't burn protein.

so yeah poison don't burn or more they do but at such a massive temperature that the aura of heat would burn to death the archers firing the arrows.

the poison burns of - MYTH BUSTED
Nikealos, I hate to break it to you, but protein can be burned. Our bodies convert protein to fuel all the time, as it really isn't that hard to oxidize. I'm not sure where you got this information, but I've studied protein oxidation pathways at the molecular level in both biology and organic chemistry classes. If you really want, I can point you to some texts that explicitly spell out how to burn protein.

One simpler way is to burn a steak. Said steak is composed of primarily lipds, proteins, some acids, random solutes, and water. When it gets hot, the water evaporates out, but the organics oxidize quite handily.
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