When Does the AI Give Up???

RERomine · #1 October 28th, 2008, 11:07 PM

I forgot about the AI's mid-game reinforcement wave. It's just taken them a while to get across the map. That's why the battle is still "raging". Scratch three more British tanks

iCaMpWiThAWP · #2 October 29th, 2008, 09:12 PM

Never saw the AI give up a battle, they seem to be suicidal

gila · #3 October 29th, 2008, 10:45 PM

I think when you have all victory hexes and killed the HQ unit and/or routed or eliminated at least 5% of enemy units.
I could be wrong

RERomine · #4 October 30th, 2008, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gila

I think when you have all victory hexes and killed the HQ unit and/or routed or eliminated at least 5% of enemy units.
I could be wrong

The battle was a delay, so I had all the victory hexes at the start. As for the enemy HQ unit, since it was a delay all I had to do was hold out. Running out and hunting for the HQ unit wasn't really an practical option. I've learned not to run into a wall of burning vehicles and smoke as there may be some pinned, but otherwise very alive infantry units in there.

The AI does get a small wave of reinforcements during the course of a battle and it won't end until those show up and get killed. Shortly after I started the thread, I saw the reinforcements moving across the map. They didn't last long and the battle ended after I destroyed them. The AI ended up with 147 dead "tanks", but that included armored cars. I think my battalion was hit by a full regiment.

Mobhack · #5 October 30th, 2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RERomine

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Originally Posted by gila

I think when you have all victory hexes and killed the HQ unit and/or routed or eliminated at least 5% of enemy units.
I could be wrong

The battle was a delay, so I had all the victory hexes at the start. As for the enemy HQ unit, since it was a delay all I had to do was hold out. Running out and hunting for the HQ unit wasn't really an practical option. I've learned not to run into a wall of burning vehicles and smoke as there may be some pinned, but otherwise very alive infantry units in there.

The AI does get a small wave of reinforcements during the course of a battle and it won't end until those show up and get killed. Shortly after I started the thread, I saw the reinforcements moving across the map. They didn't last long and the battle ended after I destroyed them. The AI ended up with 147 dead "tanks", but that included armored cars. I think my battalion was hit by a full regiment.

AI reinforcements are not guaranteed. Its just a method of holding back some troops in reserve for it. (e.g helo mounted assault troops in MBT).

But the reinforcements will be considered in the "force broken" calculations totals. Once they arrive on map if the AI is utterly broken then the game will be ended even with these few fresh guys sitting in OK status near the base line. If the AI rout status is borderline, then it will fight on until that changes.

Andy

RERomine · #6 October 30th, 2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mobhack

AI reinforcements are not guaranteed. Its just a method of holding back some troops in reserve for it. (e.g helo mounted assault troops in MBT).

But the reinforcements will be considered in the "force broken" calculations totals. Once they arrive on map if the AI is utterly broken then the game will be ended even with these few fresh guys sitting in OK status near the base line. If the AI rout status is borderline, then it will fight on until that changes.

Andy

I always plan on the AI getting reinforcments, just in case. Better safe than sorry. It just didn't occur to me in this case. I'm not sure why I actually saw them arriving in the first place. Visibility was 18 and being a delay, I was way over on my side of the map. I saw the reinforcements charge in anyhow. They were a good 50 hexes away when I saw them. A bug?

Mobhack · #7 October 30th, 2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RERomine

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Originally Posted by Mobhack

AI reinforcements are not guaranteed. Its just a method of holding back some troops in reserve for it. (e.g helo mounted assault troops in MBT).

But the reinforcements will be considered in the "force broken" calculations totals. Once they arrive on map if the AI is utterly broken then the game will be ended even with these few fresh guys sitting in OK status near the base line. If the AI rout status is borderline, then it will fight on until that changes.

Andy

I always plan on the AI getting reinforcments, just in case. Better safe than sorry. It just didn't occur to me in this case. I'm not sure why I actually saw them arriving in the first place. Visibility was 18 and being a delay, I was way over on my side of the map. I saw the reinforcements charge in anyhow. They were a good 50 hexes away when I saw them. A bug?

I have never seen the AI reinforcements in hundreds of battles in reduced visibility unless I had eyes-on to the enemy arrival, so you either had someone over there (including air strikes), or there was a bug, or you are mixing up the review map at end-game (when all enemy are visible). Do you have a save from well before they arrived?.

Andy

gila · #8 October 29th, 2008, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP

Never saw the AI give up a battle, they seem to be suicidal

The AI does give up, but depends on the fortitude of your opponent.
Italians for exmaple,are much easier to beat.
Played a short campaign against the japs though.And i think i had to kill every last one!