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Old November 11th, 2008, 09:58 PM
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The game, as outlined in opening thread, is to be 24h for the first bit. Yes, there have been issues with llamaserver, however every time there was a hickup the correction has been made and the 24h interval reset to when the correciton was made. Just because the server goes awol should not be any reason to forget about the games that you have committed to. I'm the game admin not a babysitter.

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I really don't see how hard it is to check your email atleast 1-2 times per 24h period and get your turn in. Apparently it is. Maybe you're too busy, real life does get in the way, however saying after you staled that you got the turn late at night and wish to roll back just won't jive. If you had posted before going to bed that you needed an extension, I could have done that. Honestly you had the turn, could have easily checked to see when it is due and gone from there. Twice now you have threatened to leave the game (in fact this time you resigned even before I could reply to your post!), well I've taken you up on your word and have already found a sub for your position.

And as for 'starting a fad' I really do not know where you're coming from. This is the first game I've organized, perhaps you mistake me for someone else.



Regardless what's done is done. I have found subs for MA T'ien and LA Mictlan and the game will go on, with perhaps one more extension to get the second sub set up. My apologies to the players for the delay.
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Old November 11th, 2008, 11:28 PM

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Old November 12th, 2008, 01:43 AM

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(in fact this time you resigned even before I could reply to your post!)
Actually, as you know that last bits not true; I sent an email to you, you made a choice, and responded to my email.

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Slobby, you make it sound as if the 24h deadline has been rigorously enforced, when in fact it hasn't. Not counting the llama delay, the game was delayed on the at least 3 times going back through the threads.

I got interested in resigning when you arbitrarily delayed the game 3 days without word or explanation, till after the fact.

I grant that I signed up for a 24 hour game. But processing times that vary wildly and unpredictably do not make it easier.

And you never answered the question -why *not* just rerun the turn.

When I have hosted (and a thankless job it is - so kudos to you for that), I find the critical question is - what is the best course of action *for the game*.

So things I think are critical are:

-Explaining whats going on, when theres a delay.
-If a turn crashes explaining, asking for opinions on how to deal with it, and then explain the decision you made.
-Once you make a decision, try to apply it consistently.
-Make decisions that damage the game the least. I think thats the critical point.

So, in this particular instance, I think the game is damaged by having three staling positions, especially with a plausible reason why.

I also think that having a substitute play a position, damages the game, because the substitute presumably will not know how the pretenenders and dominion were optimized, why the research was done in the way it was etc.

Now it could be that there were huge game issues; reasons to not rerun the turn. But without an explanation it just seems you chose not to, because you didn't *want* to.

Anyway, thanks for setting up the game. Good luck & good gaming
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Old November 12th, 2008, 08:23 AM
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(in fact this time you resigned even before I could reply to your post!)
Actually, as you know that last bits not true; I sent an email to you, you made a choice, and responded to my email.
Quote from Chris's pm to me: But without a roll back, I'm not interested in playing the game - so I will just resign the position.

I received this before I had any chance to respond to his post.

Do not call me a liar good sir.

*If you want to discuss this further pm me. This will be my last reply to you in this thread on this subject.

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Old November 12th, 2008, 09:53 AM

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(in fact this time you resigned even before I could reply to your post!)
Actually, as you know that last bits not true; I sent an email to you, you made a choice, and responded to my email.
Quote from Chris's pm to me: But without a roll back, I'm not interested in playing the game - so I will just resign the position.

I received this before I had any chance to respond to his post.

Do not call me a liar good sir.
But there is nothing not consonant with what I said.

"Without a rollback, I'm not interested ..." is a conditional. It means with a rollback I wanted to continue.

You then emailed me saying "sorry to see you go". Ie., I'm not rerunning the turn.

So you had opportunity to post to the forum or take any other action. Which is what I said.

But I've beat a dead horse = )
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