Elemental/Dom 3 comparison on the Elemental forums

[Sombre]

The sounds and graphics of dom3 are bad. End of story. They're mid 1990s level, if that.

However it doesn't take much away from the game, which is fantastic. It also makes modding a lot easier and more effective. Would the game be better if it was a graphical powerhouse? Hell yes. But that's pie in the sky.

[krpeters]

Well, that was an entertaining flamewar to read...

The critic of Dom3 did raise a number of good points. But he failed pretty badly on the issue of combat resolution. The reason it is so important that dominions uses AI battle resolution is because it would be painfully tedious to use manual resolution. This is precisely why I don't play RTS games, and why I gave up on MOO3. I got sick of manually herding my units around.

It's a pity the AI sucks it. Then again, it doesn't suck nearly as much as the AI in RTS games and MOO3... probably precisely because you're so dependant on it that the developers have been forced to improve it.

[licker]

You could autoresolve battles in MoO3 you know.

Honestly that's the 'fairest' way to play alot of those kinds of games SP, since you don't get a potentially massive advantage on the AI, though the MoO3 tactical AI wasn't terrible, it just lacked some tools to make it easier for you to actually manage your fleets.

[Zeldor]

There are surely some problems with Dom3 and there is no reason to deny it there:
- graphics are really bad [even if they may be climatic], of course better than Dom2 or Dom1
- sound? huh, just try to listen to illithid mind blasts or trampling!
- AI - extremely bad, even considering in what environment it exists
- balance - there are huge problems with it in vanilla
- UI - also really bad, also could be much better even with same tools

There are many great things about Dom3 [MP mostly], but it has huge amount of flaws. Game would be surely better with one age, but better balanced, with good AI, normal map editor etc, but it's not correlated. And Illwinter is not a normal company. And on top of that comes Shrapnel, which can be described best with its ads [everyone knows which].

P.S. Maybe we should buy Illwinter and fund Dom4?

[JimMorrison]

Originally Posted by Zeldor

And on top of that comes Shrapnel, which can be described best with its ads [everyone knows which].

P.S. Maybe we should buy Illwinter and fund Dom4?

Wait, I'm confused..... are you saying that I want to sleep with Shrapnel, but neither of us wants a serious relationship....?

I'm conflicted, I never wanted to sleep with an entire company before.... well, not since 3Dfx anyways.....


I will sell all of my worldly possessions and fly to Sweden if such a simple thing as a dedicated gopher speeds Dom4 along to it's eventual creation.

[lch]

Originally Posted by Zeldor

And Illwinter is not a normal company.

It's a Handelsbolag.

Originally Posted by Zeldor

P.S. Maybe we should buy Illwinter and fund Dom4?

aka "kidnap JK and chain him to the radiator"?

[JimMorrison]

Originally Posted by lch

aka "kidnap JK and chain him to the radiator"?

I'm pretty sure that KO already did so.

Oh wait, was I not supposed to blurt that out?

[MaxWilson]

Dom3 is a great game with flaws, yes... which makes me want to know more about the "current project" that KO is always hinting at.

-Max

[HoneyBadger]

From what I gathered in the recent sorta-announcement, apparently Kristoffer has kidnapped a *girl* programmer, and will be chaining her up next to JK. Those kooky Swedes...

[sector24]

Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

From what I gathered in the recent sorta-announcement, apparently Kristoffer has kidnapped a *girl* programmer, ...

Obviously false, as such things are the stuff of myth and legend.