Lost in Time and Space?

lch · #1 January 8th, 2009, 11:54 AM

If you're banished to Cocytos or Inferno or happen to end up there in some other way, or if you're getting lost in the Void, your unit becomes "lost in time and space". AFAIK you are being randomly attacked by enemies, and you have a chance to break free every turn, though I'm not sure right now what the roll looks like. If you manage to stay alive and break free, you re-appear in a random province, which counts like normal movement. (in enemy territory, you attack, you can drown in the sea etc.) The game does have special provinces and battle conditions for these three provinces, but somehow you can never see the fights appearing in them, which probably was a decision later on.

Johan K · #2 January 8th, 2009, 12:54 PM

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The game does have special provinces and battle conditions for these three provinces, but somehow you can never see the fights appearing in them, which probably was a decision later on.

What?? Are you sure you don't get to see them? That is not intended.

Lingchih · #3 January 8th, 2009, 06:15 PM

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The game does have special provinces and battle conditions for these three provinces, but somehow you can never see the fights appearing in them, which probably was a decision later on.

What?? Are you sure you don't get to see them? That is not intended.

I'm pretty sure you can see the fight if they pop back into an enemy prov. I used to play a lot of R'lyeh and seem to recall witnessing a few of those laughable fights.

JimMorrison · #4 January 8th, 2009, 07:12 PM

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The game does have special provinces and battle conditions for these three provinces, but somehow you can never see the fights appearing in them, which probably was a decision later on.

What?? Are you sure you don't get to see them? That is not intended.

I'm pretty sure you can see the fight if they pop back into an enemy prov. I used to play a lot of R'lyeh and seem to recall witnessing a few of those laughable fights.

Nono, you will always see the battle that happens when they pop back into "reality", however the issue is that you never see battles taking place INSIDE of The Void, Kokytos, or Inferno.

I for one am stoked that Johan is troubled by this, and if it is fixed in a patch, I will send many Starspawn (blues, of course!) through the Void Gate, so I can see what happens.

MaxWilson · #5 January 9th, 2009, 02:36 AM

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I for one am stoked that Johan is troubled by this, and if it is fixed in a patch, I will send many Starspawn (blues, of course!) through the Void Gate, so I can see what happens.

And I will start using Claws of Cocytus. And enjoying it when someone uses it on me. I love watching arena fights, for instance.

-Max

lch · #6 January 9th, 2009, 06:25 AM

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What?? Are you sure you don't get to see them? That is not intended.

I'm pretty sure you can see the fight if they pop back into an enemy prov. I used to play a lot of R'lyeh and seem to recall witnessing a few of those laughable fights.

Nono, you will always see the battle that happens when they pop back into "reality", however the issue is that you never see battles taking place INSIDE of The Void, Kokytos, or Inferno.

Exactly. The battles do take place during hosting, and can be inspected in the debug log, I think, but the battle reports don't appear in the player messages and can't be seen. I only saw fights in the three special provinces and their special battle conditions (the disco lights are nice) by finding out about the Debug Console.

MaxWilson · #7 January 9th, 2009, 08:47 AM

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Exactly. The battles do take place during hosting, and can be inspected in the debug log, I think, but the battle reports don't appear in the player messages and can't be seen. I only saw fights in the three special provinces and their special battle conditions (the disco lights are nice) by finding out about the Debug Console.

??? Is that a mod? Or some secret beta-tester thing? I would LOVE to be able to watch battles without having spies present, in my SP games.

-Max

vfb · #8 January 8th, 2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lch

If you're banished to Cocytos or Inferno or happen to end up there in some other way, or if you're getting lost in the Void, your unit becomes "lost in time and space". AFAIK you are being randomly attacked by enemies, and you have a chance to break free every turn, though I'm not sure right now what the roll looks like. If you manage to stay alive and break free, you re-appear in a random province, which counts like normal movement. (in enemy territory, you attack, you can drown in the sea etc.) The game does have special provinces and battle conditions for these three provinces, but somehow you can never see the fights appearing in them, which probably was a decision later on.

I've always just had my units pop out of the void or hell, and never seen any battles there. I think all my units eventually came back, they never just died there.

JimMorrison · #9 January 8th, 2009, 08:59 PM

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I've always just had my units pop out of the void or hell, and never seen any battles there. I think all my units eventually came back, they never just died there.

You know, when you say you -think- one thing, and then state -never- the obvious, it comes off a bit misleading.

I'm pretty certain that in all of the games that I played, I've won/quit some with commanders still "Lost in Time and Space". I'm not sure that there is any way to know if they're dead, other than a pretender or a prophet. I've noticed that less powerful beings (ie- weaker than a Tart or a pretender) often come back with afflictions, which could imply combat of some kind.