.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Air Assault Task Force- Save $8.00
Bronze- Save $10.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Shrapnel Community > Space Empires: IV & V

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old November 15th, 2000, 09:16 PM
Richard's Avatar

Richard Richard is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Lancaster, OH 43130
Posts: 1,997
Thanks: 5
Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts
Richard is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Game Manual in HTML Format ??????

Guys,

I understand how you might be frustrated by this but is a fact that games that have PDF's manuals are pirated MUCH more than games that don't have them as folks have to buy the game to get the manual.

And normally would promote this sort of community involvement but we are forced to do these sorts of things STRICTLY becase of pirating.

Now I have no problem with used generated FAQ's or strategy guides or tech tree's being posted, but out copyrighted manual being posted would just make it an easier target for the warez crowd.

------------------
Sarge is coming...

Richard Arnesen
Director of Covert Ops
Shrapnel Games
http://www.shrapnelgames.com
__________________
Change is inevitable, how you handle change is controllable - J. Strong
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old November 15th, 2000, 09:54 PM

rdouglass rdouglass is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Biddeford, ME, USA
Posts: 1,007
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
rdouglass is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Game Manual in HTML Format ??????

Wait a minute Richard. I'm losing some respect for you guys. Why couldn't you just say that its copyrighted material and leave it at that. You really don't need to be quoting false (IMO) "facts" about pirated S/W. I've been in this computer business for almost 20 years and there are no REAL facts about pirated software - only estimates - no one really knows. If they did really know, there'd be a lot less of it (pirating). Now if your talking about how getting a PRINTED manual with the game discourages piracy, I totally agree. However, we're talking about an electronic manual.

Again, please just tell us the real fact - instead of percieved facts - that it's copyrighted material. Most adults will be able to live with that. If you REALLY want to support the paying customers and are REALLY concerned with the piracy aspect of providing a PDF, then take 15 minutes, build a PDF, and put it on the next release of the CD. If not, quit feeding the bull and p*ssing off your paying customers.

Besides, its not a whole lot more difficult to post an HTML file than a PDF.

[This message has been edited by rdouglass (edited 15 November 2000).]
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old November 15th, 2000, 10:14 PM
Richard's Avatar

Richard Richard is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Lancaster, OH 43130
Posts: 1,997
Thanks: 5
Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts
Richard is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Game Manual in HTML Format ??????

To be perfectly honest we did no want to publish an html manual at all but once we determined how large it would be converted we had no choice.

The pdf is different in that it is an easily transportable and printable format where html is not. In either case we are opposed to posting of this manual (html ot pdf) anywhere.

However if you personally want to make a pdf from the html for your use, more power to you and I would encourage that, just don't post it to another site.

In either case the decision isn't up to me but due to the current state of affairs I support this decision. We are taking steps to ensure that such things don't happen again (ie a manual not being thoroughly checked until far too late in the QA process).

------------------
Sarge is coming...

Richard Arnesen
Director of Covert Ops
Shrapnel Games
http://www.shrapnelgames.com
__________________
Change is inevitable, how you handle change is controllable - J. Strong
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old November 15th, 2000, 10:38 PM

rdouglass rdouglass is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Biddeford, ME, USA
Posts: 1,007
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
rdouglass is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Game Manual in HTML Format ??????

I'm not sure I agree with you on the ease of PDF vs HTML - to me they're both a "no brainer". Reguardless, I want to thank you for the clear, concise, and (seemingly) honest answer to my ravings.

Thanks!!!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old November 16th, 2000, 12:19 AM
Instar's Avatar

Instar Instar is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,246
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Instar is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Game Manual in HTML Format ??????

Id buy the full manual, hey its only 8 bucks! I like having the full manual. (At my house I have to shared the computer, so Id rather be playing than reading a manual, I could read while someone else is doing stuff on the computer.)
__________________
When a cat is dropped, it always lands on its feet, and when toast is dropped, it always lands with the buttered side facing down. I propose to strap buttered toast to the back of a cat. The two will hover, spinning inches above the ground. With a giant buttered cat array, a high-speed monorail could easily link New York with Chicago.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old November 16th, 2000, 12:37 AM

James Sterrett James Sterrett is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 276
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
James Sterrett is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Game Manual in HTML Format ??????

I've uploaded a SEIV Tech Tree listing as a Word doco, to http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/ubbuploads/James+Sterrett/SE4TechTree.doc. It lists all of the techs, makes their inter-relationships & costs more clear, and ought to be easily printable. It also includes some basic info on the various weapons systems.

[This message has been edited by James Sterrett (edited 15 November 2000).]

[This message has been edited by James Sterrett (edited 15 November 2000).]
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old November 16th, 2000, 02:05 AM

Dime Greenback Dime Greenback is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Wuerzburg, Germany
Posts: 26
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Dime Greenback is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Game Manual in HTML Format ??????

Richard, would it be acceptable to Shrapnel to mail out a PDF manual to those paying customers who request it?

From what I have read on the forum someone has already made a PDF which he could give you, and you have the email address of your customers anyway. So where is the problem with that approach?

Just a suggestion...

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2025, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.