BattleTech Race Style ?

[Noble713]

Originally posted by Hugh Manatee:
Giant robots>j00

Giant robots>almost everything

Maybe, but you know what's not included in the "almost everything"? RenLeg Grav Tanks. They're faster, heavier, carry more firepower, have a FAR longer range, and even have shields. The tech in RenLeg is way beyond that of BTech, partially due to being 3800 years farther in the future that BT.

Heck, even a Garrison Legion, which has ground, rather than grav, vehicles could probably stomp mechs.

The entire might of the Draconis Combine (according to the Field Manual: DC, if you add up the OOBs) is only about 9,000 mechs and 70,000 infantry. Not only is that pathetic compared to the modern world, but about 15 Garrison Legions could defeat such a force (that's about 8,600 tanks and IFVs and 41,000 bounce infantry), and Thapsus alone, TOG's occupational capital in Shannedam county, has 25 Garrison Legions. TOG's total military strength is somewhere around 8 million legions and 1 billion space warships, enough to give even 40k's Imperium of Man a run for it's money.

I scoff at the pathetic capabilities of Battletech.

[ March 28, 2003, 14:14: Message edited by: Noble713 ]

[Stone Mill]

Well ok... I guess folks have strong opinions on Renegade Legion vs. Battletech, which I really can't comment on, but it sounds interesting.

Actually, earlier discussions were generated about throwing together an "anime" set using remnants of Robotech, Battletech, etc...

Just checking to see in anyone was inspired.

[Suicide Junkie]

I was really saddened that Battletech got all the glory over Renegade L. I thought the RL universe to be far more compelling and realistic than a nuclear reactor in a battlemech that didnt vape a city when the mech went boom boom.

Nuclear reactors just don't go up like that unless you're REALLY trying.
Think about it, why would you want to carry around a critical mass of uranium if its not intended to be a bomb? Rather, you just need a small very sub-critical pile, which will power you for years.

Nuclear submarines don't make mushroom clouds when they get torpedoed. They just leak, sink, and spread a little radioactive material at worst.

[dogscoff]

It's a fact, Giant robots are the coolest thing ever, although tanks are good, big stomping robots own.

Well, actually, the coolest thing ever is a big viking stomping robot.


As the evidence above clearly demonstrates, big stompy robots ownz tanks.

[ March 28, 2003, 15:39: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

[gregebowman]

Actually, I had forgotten about Renegade Legion. I played BattleTech, Star Trek and FASA's cyberpunk game, but never did play RL. Too bad FASA folded. They put out some good products, and that meant you didn't have to play AD&D all of the time. The other game company I supported was Steve Jackson Games and their GURPS system. If no one has played it, give it a try. It's mostly a skill point system, but it so adaptable, you can play in almost genre that your imagination can take you.

[Desdinova]

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:

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I was really saddened that Battletech got all the glory over Renegade L. I thought the RL universe to be far more compelling and realistic than a nuclear reactor in a battlemech that didnt vape a city when the mech went boom boom.

Nuclear reactors just don't go up like that unless you're REALLY trying.
Think about it, why would you want to carry around a critical mass of uranium if its not intended to be a bomb? Rather, you just need a small very sub-critical pile, which will power you for years.

Nuclear submarines don't make mushroom clouds when they get torpedoed. They just leak, sink, and spread a little radioactive material at worst.

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i thought the reactors were fusion reactors not fission. from what i remember of the description of them they worked (scifi technobabble description of course) by shooting a deuterium pellet with lasers to the point of a fusion reaction that was contained in a magnetic bottle. it would seem to me that if the bottle was breached there would be an explosion, maybe not emough to take out a city but enough to take out the mech and everything in the immediate vicinity.

regarding renegade legion. there were two games for it that i remember the first was a old strategy game based upon the rules of the board game. it even did missions based upon the rules. as your characters advanced you gained points that you could use to customize your ships.
the second one was a flight sim called Renegade Legion: Battle for Jacobs Star. you were a young Plutarch who disobeyed a cowardly order to retreat and actually took out a squadron of Spiculums. as a result your were busted down in rank and shiped to the middle of nowhere just as a Tog offensive starts. if you lose you die and there were 3 levels of victory depending on your difficulty setting. it was a fun game also.

[ March 31, 2003, 01:18: Message edited by: desdinova ]

[Dawn Falcon]

Actually, for most of the things you need nuclear power, if you can lug the weight (it's not as efficient) and are worried about explosions, use a pebble bed reactor.

They CAN'T blow up. Sure, a direct hit will spray radioactive pebbles everywhere, but that's not nearly as bad as a meltdown.

Which CAN happen with a fission reactors. Fusion reactors like BT CAN explode..but ONLY if their shielding fails catastrophically. If there's time for the (hydrogen) feed to shut down, no boom.

But if there's a critical failure? boom.