Crossbows vs. Longbows

[JimMorrison]

Originally Posted by MachingunJoeTurbo

Arguing that "tonality" matters, but then claiming the importance of fact is contradictory as someone can say a fact calling another a "homosexual nazi fanboy" without the fact becoming a nonfact; tonality changes nothing.

Your entire argument, starting from your initial post, has been that crossbows are -superior- to longbows, and in fact you seem to want to argue every single point - thus implying that your viewpoint is that crossbows are superior to longbows in every conceivable way (except for cost!). Also, if you go back and reread your first post, it is openly insulting to people you have never had a running dialogue with. This has the result of making people who believe that "neither weapon is superior in all cases" want to disagree with you. It's not so much that you alienate people who already agree with you completely, it's that you alienate everyone who does NOT already agree with you completely, which is most people. Facts matter, but also approaching a disagreement in a manner that invites people to agree with you AND allows people to politely disagree without feeling foolish - is almost equally important, when communicating with other humans (we may not look like much on the internets, but I assure you, most of us ARE human).

Originally Posted by MachingunJoeTurbo

Again as I have already mentioned my personal preference is one of parity in these games I don't want one to be overpowered over the other, but "historical fact" is what I've been telling you personal preference or not.

And again, it was made simply and abundantly clear that currently both weapons have equal usefulness, with the usefulness of slings (just mentioned for clarity) waning already in Middle Age, and the usefulness of short/long/composite bows beginning to wane in Late Age, as crossbows come into prominence.

One person makes a post wondering if longbows should be AP as well, and it seems that the discussion was showing a lack of need for a change, and a lack of any momentum pushing for a change. In fact, by the time you arrived, the discussion had transformed into one of the relative merits of different weapons and armor, and what really constitutes armor "piercing" damage in the first place.


Personally I thought it was a pretty interesting discussion, until you so rudely brought it back onto the original topic. Not necessarily saying it's best to range so far off topic (though I love it, myself), just that you kind of pooped the party, my friend.