TI what is it good for?

narwan · #1 April 1st, 2009, 08:27 PM

For modern games I'd rarely play on anything but a very large map (max size or at least close to it) and with enough terrain features to break LOS considerably. It doesn't have to be close terrain everywhere but remember that 5 or 6 tanks with TI (vis 40 each) can cover the entire max map size in completely clear terrain. There's little fun in that if your on the other side (I play PBEM mostly, rarely against the AI anymore). Those are indeed ideal conditions for TI so assume the enemy has some brains and will choose to fight in terrain and under conditions which if not favorable to them, at least aren't suicidal.

Narwan

Mobhack · #2 April 1st, 2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by narwan

For modern games I'd rarely play on anything but a very large map (max size or at least close to it) and with enough terrain features to break LOS considerably. It doesn't have to be close terrain everywhere but remember that 5 or 6 tanks with TI (vis 40 each) can cover the entire max map size in completely clear terrain. There's little fun in that if your on the other side (I play PBEM mostly, rarely against the AI anymore). Those are indeed ideal conditions for TI so assume the enemy has some brains and will choose to fight in terrain and under conditions which if not favorable to them, at least aren't suicidal.

Narwan

Personally, I stop at 1979 or thereabouts - no TI. So tactics count for something.

It is more fun using Chieftains or M60 against the hordes that way than just plinking everything in your arcade-game "see-everything" sights with killem-all guns. Ditto - playing the Soviet Hordes (tm) you can limit yourself to T-5X or T-62 and still have fun while giving the NATO AI a fair crack of the whip.

I can also see what might have happened if 1/51 Highland deployed in 73/4 when I was in the TA (no Milans the TA got them a couple of years after the regulars, just 4x120mm Wombats + 4xMobats). As rear security for BAOR it would have been "hunt the desantniks" or "receive an OMG in the face"... i.e. interesting times.

Andy

Ramm · #3 April 1st, 2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mobhack

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Originally Posted by narwan

For modern games I'd rarely play on anything but a very large map (max size or at least close to it) and with enough terrain features to break LOS considerably. It doesn't have to be close terrain everywhere but remember that 5 or 6 tanks with TI (vis 40 each) can cover the entire max map size in completely clear terrain. There's little fun in that if your on the other side (I play PBEM mostly, rarely against the AI anymore). Those are indeed ideal conditions for TI so assume the enemy has some brains and will choose to fight in terrain and under conditions which if not favorable to them, at least aren't suicidal.

Narwan

Personally, I stop at 1979 or thereabouts - no TI. So tactics count for something.

It is more fun using Chieftains or M60 against the hordes that way than just plinking everything in your arcade-game "see-everything" sights with killem-all guns. Ditto - playing the Soviet Hordes (tm) you can limit yourself to T-5X or T-62 and still have fun while giving the NATO AI a fair crack of the whip.

I can also see what might have happened if 1/51 Highland deployed in 73/4 when I was in the TA (no Milans the TA got them a couple of years after the regulars, just 4x120mm Wombats + 4xMobats). As rear security for BAOR it would have been "hunt the desantniks" or "receive an OMG in the face"... i.e. interesting times.

Andy

Thank God they didn't Andy

Or I would still be playing this game in DOS

Andrew