Niefelheim - Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf?

[Torin]

Baalz, thank you very much. Now AlpineJoe used this against me.

I couldnt use my thug oracles (Agartha) against those thug werewolves because of the chest wound of those dreaded axes, but they showed late enough so my magic-3 earth readers researched petrify and suddenly werewolves were like puppies. Ok ive been lucky to find astral mages and gear my petrifier oracles (earth4) with eye of the void and earthboots. But if i had astral on my pretender i wouldnt need any luck.

I think early giants would have been scarier (i hurried to const to gear my pretender risen oracle and umbrals to stop hypotetical giants) but all in all before I could reach petrify i couldnt stop them apart from my pretender geared with const 4 items.

[AndonSage]

I'm playing Dom 3 with the latest patch, so I don't know if something changed between when Baalz posted his guide and the latest patch, but using his Pretender suggestion, I'm coming up with -25 points.

Awake Master Lich: E4 S4 D5
Dominion 9, Order 3, Sloth 3, Cold 3, Death 3, Luck 3, Magic 1

Anyone know where the discrepancy happened?

Taking Dominion down to 8 leaves me with 17 points.

Is it worth taking Dominion down to 7 and picking up F2 for site searching? I seem to remember (it's been over a year since I've played Dom 3) several fire sites have multiple types of gems.

[Alpine Joe]

Originally Posted by Torin

Baalz, thank you very much. Now AlpineJoe used this against me.

I couldnt use my thug oracles (Agartha) against those thug werewolves because of the chest wound of those dreaded axes, but they showed late enough so my magic-3 earth readers researched petrify and suddenly werewolves were like puppies. Ok ive been lucky to find astral mages and gear my petrifier oracles (earth4) with eye of the void and earthboots. But if i had astral on my pretender i wouldnt need any luck.

I think early giants would have been scarier (i hurried to const to gear my pretender risen oracle and umbrals to stop hypotetical giants) but all in all before I could reach petrify i couldnt stop them apart from my pretender geared with const 4 items.

Ha just saw this. Yeah I tried out Baalz werewolf gear and it worked pretty well initially. That first battle i must have killed 3-4k gold worth of troops and your pretender with 4 skratti. Alas I had no astral income (like 0) that game at all so couldn't afford the amulets of antimagic i needed. It was actually blindness that did me in more than petrify, as werewolves equipped with athames have no AOE attack. Then you turned the tide and atlantis did me in

[AndonSage]

Originally Posted by Alpine Joe

It was actually blindness that did me in more than petrify, as werewolves equipped with athames have no AOE attack.

I've read several Niefelheim guides, and one of them has the following for countering darkness:

Have a Gygja cast Twiceborn. Get her killed in your dominion. Voila, now she can see in the dark. Do this with a couple of Skratti as well. Your enemies will try to use darkness against you in their desparation, so this is a must-have for late-mid-game battles. A typical darkness casting foe is not well-suited to defend against white mages casting.

Anyway, just something I thought might help.