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Evil Rich · #1 July 8th, 2002, 12:44 AM

Easy then, IMO no gifts and no tributes. If you can't get it together to survive on your own then so be it.

Diplomacy should revolve about things you want to act upon. Not about things you want to scratch each others back with.

Alpha Kodiak · #2 July 8th, 2002, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Deathstalker:
Just wish there was a way to turn off the 'analyze' button.

Oh, I don't think we want to turn off the analyze button. Bwahahaha!

Question on trading, though (and this is tied in with the gift/tribute question, since gift/tribute can just as easily be used as a trade): are we disallowing tech trading only or all trading. A side effect of disallowing all trading is removing the ability to trade population for population that can breath a different atmosphere. I'm not saying that is a bad thing, since it seems like a practice that governments probably wouldn't really practice (or at least their populations might object!), but it is definitely an effect to be aware of.

So I guess that leads to the next question, do we want to allow population exchanges, or should the only way to get a different breathing population be to capture them?

Unknown_Enemy · #3 July 8th, 2002, 10:47 AM

I would guess that we are allowed to trade everything we want only if it does not lead to new tech gains.

No problem to capture a ship and analyze it, but we are not allowed to trade a ship to analyze it.

Evil Rich · #4 July 8th, 2002, 11:05 AM

There are two buttons in the game setup that you can turn off the.

Allows Gifts/Tributes &
Allow Technology Gifts/Tributes/Trades

If these are both turned off then there is no direct trading of tech.

Given that as far as I know is no way to stop people building ships, trading them away and then the recepient analysing them, then I don't see any point forbidding such practices.

It might still allow trading of certain techs, but it is going to be much slower, cost more resources and is going to be limited enough that it will no longet dominate the game.

If there is a way to turn off the analyse option then that might be interesting but I don't know if that is possible.

Deathstalker · #5 July 8th, 2002, 06:32 PM

One spot left for anyone who wants to join up.

Alpha Kodiak · #6 July 9th, 2002, 06:30 PM

Any final thoughts on trading/gifts/tributes?

geoschmo · #7 July 9th, 2002, 06:51 PM

I am pretty much in total agreement with Evil Rich. No direct tech trading, but ship trading to get tech the hard way is fine. Any other gifts trades are fine with me as well.

But of course if the decision is no ship trading I will comply.

We need clarification though if we disallow ship trading for the puposes of accquiring tech, do we still allow it for the purposes of population swap? Do we allow pop swap at all, or make people get the pop the hard way as well?

Geoschmo

[ July 09, 2002, 17:53: Message edited by: geoschmo ]