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October 1st, 2009, 09:37 PM
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Re: Setsumi - LA game, upload pretenders!
Okay so Juffos has left me in charge of this mess. Let’s have a vote. I will be accepting nominations for proposed remedies to our dilemma for the next 48 hours. Then voting will be available 48 hours. To vote you will rank all of the nominated options in order from most preferred to least preferred. All votes and nominations must be posted here in the forum for everyone to see.
To determine the winning option I will enter the ranked votes here: http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~rhl1/rbvote/calc.html . The winning option will be determined using the Schulze method.
To start things off I propose the following options based on the previous discussion here:
Option A: Do nothing and continue the game as normal
Option B: Complete turn 56 as normal then run turns 57 and 58 with only Ermor submitting turns. Turn 59 would resume as normal
Option C: Roll back to Turn 53.
Suggestions for additional options will be accepted here on this forum until 1:30 GMT on Sunday Oct. 2.
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October 1st, 2009, 04:55 PM
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Re: Setsumi - LA game, upload pretenders!
SciencePro is the new admin. Please pester him instead of me 
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October 1st, 2009, 07:14 PM
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Re: Setsumi - LA game, upload pretenders!
I don't see what NAPs have to do with stales. It seems to be in questionable taste to let in-game events influence administrative/out of game decisions.
In-game choices should be made in pure self-interest, given the stated game objective of becoming god and sending your opposition to the depths of Tartarus for all eternity. I would hope that out-of-game decisions should be made with a bit more of an enlightened view, with a consideration to PLAYING the game in a more-or-less fair manner, not just WINNING the game. Leave the low blows in-character.
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October 1st, 2009, 10:06 PM
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Re: Setsumi - LA game, upload pretenders!
I'll resubmit my earlier proposal for 3 stales/1 turn, though I suppose I can't actually vote for it.
Alternatively, amending option B to include 2 immediate stales would be much more equitable than the current proposal, since allowing a preparation turn would prevent him from inflicting any significant damage within 2 turns' time. Or adding that as a separate option in addition to B.
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October 1st, 2009, 10:45 PM
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Re: Setsumi - LA game, upload pretenders!
Okay so you mean?
Option D: Roll back to turn 55. Then agree that for turns 55, 56, 57, and 58 Ermor can submit 2h every turn but the other nations can only submit ONE 2h of that player's choice. Turn 59 will continue as normal.
Option E: Roll back to turn 55. Complete turn 55 and 56 with only Ermor submitting 2h. Continue the game as normal with turn 57
When making nominations please be as specific as possible and reference specific turn numbers.
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October 1st, 2009, 10:52 PM
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Re: Setsumi - LA game, upload pretenders!
I was referring to whatever the current turn is, no rollbacks.
So: Option D: For turns 56-59 non-Ermor players submit a single non-blank .2h file, Ermor plays all turns. (Blank .2h files should be used for all turns so Zeldor can't tell in advance if a player will be staling, or force people to wait until the last 5 minutes to submit turns, etc.)
Option E: Everyone but Ermor stales 56 and 57. Continue as normal with 58.
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October 2nd, 2009, 07:21 AM
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Re: Setsumi - LA game, upload pretenders!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Micah
I was referring to whatever the current turn is, no rollbacks.
So: Option D: For turns 56-59 non-Ermor players submit a single non-blank .2h file, Ermor plays all turns. (Blank .2h files should be used for all turns so Zeldor can't tell in advance if a player will be staling, or force people to wait until the last 5 minutes to submit turns, etc.)
Option E: Everyone but Ermor stales 56 and 57. Continue as normal with 58.
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hmmmm i didn't realize this is possible. If you submit a blank file as a 2H then won't the server reject it as an improper file? People have already submitted turn 56 so will a blank file really cause the server to revert their submitted status to a staled status?
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October 2nd, 2009, 07:35 AM
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Re: Setsumi - LA game, upload pretenders!
I would say a then b. Im not really involved in the fighting anyway.
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October 4th, 2009, 12:29 AM
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Re: Setsumi - LA game, upload pretenders!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Micah
I was referring to whatever the current turn is, no rollbacks.
So: Option D: For turns 56-59 non-Ermor players submit a single non-blank .2h file, Ermor plays all turns. (Blank .2h files should be used for all turns so Zeldor can't tell in advance if a player will be staling, or force people to wait until the last 5 minutes to submit turns, etc.)
Option E: Everyone but Ermor stales 56 and 57. Continue as normal with 58.
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okay i will leave these in since they were suggested, but there is a problem with these. As far as I know there is no way to verify if someone sent a "blank" 2h file. Therefore, options D and E would rely on everyone be willing to cooperate. And there would be no way to verify if anyone actually followed instructions or not.
With A,B, and C there is no such problems. As admin I can implement those with or without anyone's cooperation. So i prefer those options to the ones Micah suggested. But I want to to be democratic instead of despotic so let's vote.
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October 4th, 2009, 12:33 AM
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Re: Setsumi - LA game, upload pretenders!
My vote in order from most to least preferred:
B>C>A>E>D
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