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Fakeymcfake · #**121** August 19th, 2009, 02:49 PM

Essentially what Kiet said. You're probably going to be fine, but is it really worth risking your long term plans just to take one province before everyone else?

aaminoff · #**122** August 20th, 2009, 09:59 AM

Proposed Treaty of Non-Aggression between Helheim and Marverni:

- forces of parties will not enter provinces owned by each other, or independent provinces in the defined sphere of influence of the counterparty.

- Spheres of influence are defined by province-count-distance to capitals. A province closer to one nation's capital than the other is in that nation's sphere of influence. Provinces equidistant from both capitals is in neither sphere of influence; in effect they are first come first served.

- termination: this NAP will last until turn 12. (for simplicity. Helheim is quite willing to negotiate other arrangements later to extend it)

Marverni, please indicate in this thread your agreement.

Note: this is a quick version of this, as we have not had time to work out more detailed terms. I can live with it, I am happy to negotiate additional terms later.

Frozen Lama · #**123** August 20th, 2009, 02:00 PM

I want to see war now people! Its turn 7, issue your attack orders now!

aaminoff · #**124** August 20th, 2009, 02:24 PM

Treaty of Nigh-Eternal Friendship and Cooperation
between Abysia and Helheim

- forces of parties will not enter provinces owned by each other, or independent provinces in the defined sphere of influence of the counterparty.
- parties will not deliberately attempt to push dominion into one anothers territory
- parties will not cast deleterious ritual spells upon one another

Spheres of influence: Abysia's sphere of influence includes provinces 221 239 242 and areas north and west. Helheim's sphere of influence is the provinces south and east of those. Provinces east and southwest of this border are not defined to lie in either sphere of influence; therefore according to the letter of this treaty whoever occupies such provinces first gets them thenceforth.

Termination:
After two (2) pretenders have been eliminated, either party may announce the treaty's termination. Three (3) turns from this announcement, the treaty shall be null and void.

Signed by Helheim

darvin · #**125** August 20th, 2009, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaminoff

Treaty of Nigh-Eternal Friendship and Cooperation
between Abysia and Helheim

- forces of parties will not enter provinces owned by each other, or independent provinces in the defined sphere of influence of the counterparty.
- parties will not deliberately attempt to push dominion into one anothers territory
- parties will not cast deleterious ritual spells upon one another

Spheres of influence: Abysia's sphere of influence includes provinces 221 239 242 and areas north and west. Helheim's sphere of influence is the provinces south and east of those. Provinces east and southwest of this border are not defined to lie in either sphere of influence; therefore according to the letter of this treaty whoever occupies such provinces first gets them thenceforth.

Termination:
After two (2) pretenders have been eliminated, either party may announce the treaty's termination. Three (3) turns from this announcement, the treaty shall be null and void.

Signed by Helheim

Signed by Abysia

Frozen Lama · #**126** August 20th, 2009, 02:53 PM

i can tell at least one of us is a lawyer in real life.......... that's the most wordy treaty i've ever seen.

Squirrelloid · #**127** August 20th, 2009, 02:57 PM

Frozen Lama: I believe that 7 turn NAP applies to orders from this turn, but what do I know...

Frozen Lama · #**128** August 20th, 2009, 02:59 PM

it is turn 7 now. massive assualts across the world should hit on turn 8 attack orders can be issued this turn

aaminoff · #**129** August 20th, 2009, 03:00 PM

Honestly, I doubt people who are lawyers in real life would enjoy being wordy in games. I just like being pompous and formal. And it saves on issues of interpretation later, which is good since these are actually inviolable according to game rules if posted here.

I'm surprised we are not seeing more of them... Do we smell blood in the water?

iainuki · #**130** August 20th, 2009, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaminoff

Proposed Treaty of Non-Aggression between Helheim and Marverni:

- forces of parties will not enter provinces owned by each other, or independent provinces in the defined sphere of influence of the counterparty.

- Spheres of influence are defined by province-count-distance to capitals. A province closer to one nation's capital than the other is in that nation's sphere of influence. Provinces equidistant from both capitals is in neither sphere of influence; in effect they are first come first served.

- termination: this NAP will last until turn 12. (for simplicity. Helheim is quite willing to negotiate other arrangements later to extend it)

Marverni, please indicate in this thread your agreement.

Note: this is a quick version of this, as we have not had time to work out more detailed terms. I can live with it, I am happy to negotiate additional terms later.

I am quite happy to agree to this. Let's talk more in PMs.