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August 20th, 2009, 09:52 PM
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Re: Vicious Circle2 Upload pretenders
You will find that diplomacy will take up a lot of your turn time, so while it might be fun at first, later on it may just become a hassle.
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August 20th, 2009, 11:00 PM
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Re: Vicious Circle2 Upload pretenders
I have found that if you have a reputation as one who ALWAYS honors his word either public or privite (even at the risk of losing the game)that you will get better tratys, trade agreements, and allies instead of Nap mates.
Diplomacy a hassle? Perhaps for some, but for me its a way playing the game and it works for me. 
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August 20th, 2009, 11:27 PM
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Re: Vicious Circle2 Upload pretenders
I mean a hassle as in the time input that is necessary to conduct good diplomacy. You may end up spending more time making deals and trying to draft 'water-tight' treaties than you do making your turns. It also adds more stress and pressure (ie player burnout) if you aren't used to it, particularly if English isn't your first language or you happen to be in a line of work where you draft contracts 
Certainly it was something I wasn't expecting when I started and I think its only fair to warn others about it.
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Originally Posted by GrudgeBringer
I have found that if you have a reputation as one who ALWAYS honors his word either public or privite (even at the risk of losing the game)that you will get better tratys, trade agreements, and allies instead of Nap mates.
Diplomacy a hassle? Perhaps for some, but for me its a way playing the game and it works for me. 
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August 21st, 2009, 01:04 PM
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Re: Vicious Circle2 Upload pretenders
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Originally Posted by shard
I mean a hassle as in the time input that is necessary to conduct good diplomacy. You may end up spending more time making deals and trying to draft 'water-tight' treaties than you do making your turns. It also adds more stress and pressure (ie player burnout) if you aren't used to it, particularly if English isn't your first language or you happen to be in a line of work where you draft contracts 
Certainly it was something I wasn't expecting when I started and I think its only fair to warn others about it.
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Originally Posted by GrudgeBringer
I have found that if you have a reputation as one who ALWAYS honors his word either public or privite (even at the risk of losing the game)that you will get better tratys, trade agreements, and allies instead of Nap mates.
Diplomacy a hassle? Perhaps for some, but for me its a way playing the game and it works for me. 
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I see you are a japanese.  Maybe the language did make some very little troubles.So did i.But the diplomacy is part of the game,it's funny and very worth reading,there're too many informations. 
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August 23rd, 2009, 04:06 AM
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Re: Vicious Circle2 Upload pretenders
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Originally Posted by mscfish
I see you are a japanese.  Maybe the language did make some very little troubles.So did i.But the diplomacy is part of the game,it's funny and very worth reading,there're too many informations. 
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Actually I'm not Japanese and while not my first language, my English is passable.
However I do have some Japanese friends who are into these types of games and are technically very good strategists but the need for complex diplomacy would put them at a severe disadvantage.
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