Up to date beta patch info..

[nmoppa]

It IS worth waiting for the patch when we know the betatesters are kicked there a... by the improved AI . .

In the mean time I'm playing SE IV in a hugh universe of 250 systems (I know for sure this game is NOT finished before the next patch comes out!) using races from the combined Modders pack 1.01 and 15 races selected by the computer). Man, this is a thrill! And as a bonus I added (as a betatester) Mephisto's "Narn in development". If you want to have a challenge for the time being, try this!
Everytime I hit the next turn button I wonder IF I still will be alive!

No reason to doubt, Version 1.19 from AARON/MM/SHRAPNEL can be a real challenge (with a little help from, oh blessed for the existence, all of us SE LOVERS/MODDERS ).

Keep up the good works, you guys, and try to convince your partner (if any) SE IV is much more important than anything else they might come up with

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PERHAPS THIS IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE <Worf facing another critical fight>

[This message has been edited by nmoppa (edited 10 February 2001).]

[Lastseer]

I have seen that the patch is expected at the end of the month. Why not release intermediate patches with each group of fixes. Two benefits:

More testers.
We get intermediate fixes to some of the more annoying problems.

[SunDevil]

I like that idea a lot.

[Puke]

I like this idea alot too, but unfortuneatly its probalby not do-able. even if you put the early patches in a 'beta patch' section to be downloaded by 'experienced / testers' only, everyone would want to download them and then Shrap/MM customer services would be swamped with people sending in requests for fixes, suggestions, or complaints about it not working.

more testers is not always a good thing, you can only have as many as a company can adequatly support.

[Lastseer]

That can not really be the issue. As it is they must still be getting a large amount of suggestions and just queueing them up, to concentrate of feedback from the official beta testers until the patch is released. If intermediate beta-patches were released, there is no reason they still couldn't concentrate on the feedback from the official beta testers and queue up the other email. Of course there would be more of it. But so what, queue it up.

If someone has a problem with an intermediate patch making things unworkable in some part of their game, they can always go back to the Last official Version or workable beta patch.

However as it stands now the AI is no challenge for me. The game sits idle on my hard drive for the three weeks until the patch is released and I can go back to missing large amounts of sleep. I'd rather deal with instability in game or rules just to get more of a challenge.

[This message has been edited by Lastseer (edited 12 February 2001).]

[Nitram Draw]

Puke is right. You need to control what you are working on and set limits for the patch.
Other patches can be used to fix/add to the game. You can't allow the programmer to be overwhelmed, even if the ideas are great.

[Emperor Zodd]

Good news!

Aaron told me today that the patch should be out this week!