Overlords - Game Thread. (playing)

[rdonj]

How about this. You can take a neutral-conquered capitol if you have dominion there, but you still can't conquer their own capitol until all other overlords are defeated. Does that sound reasonable?

[Squirrelloid]

I thought overlords could attack any normal province they could push their dominion into? So a normal capitol they push their dominion into is fair game.

[atul]

Nope, attacking capitals was explicitly banned.

[Squirrelloid]

Originally Posted by atul

Nope, attacking capitals was explicitly banned.

From the concept thread:

"However, they can only attack normal nations or independents if their pretender is in the army or if they have dominion in the normal nation's (or independent's) province (an overlord cannot take a normal nation's capitol unless all other overlords are dead)."

So, if by some miracle all the normal nations are still alive when the 2nd to last overlord bites it, the overlord can start attacking normal capitols provided he meets the other requirements.

Also, they don't need dominion there if their pretender is present (i forgot that).

I don't see the problem with settings as written.

[TwoBits]

So if I get this straight (as it currently goes), if a Normal takes another Normal's capital, he better hope he has some plan on keeping it out of an Overlord's dominion, or he can likely expect an immanent Overlord attack by said Overlord on that capital?

[atul]

I believe the current suggestion is that any capital under Normal rule is vulnerable to Overlord attack only if there's Overlord dominion on the province.

[rdonj]

Originally Posted by atul

I believe the current suggestion is that any capital under Normal rule is vulnerable to Overlord attack only if there's Overlord dominion on the province.

This is correct. Unless someone changes my mind by the end of the day this is how we are going to play it. This will require some rewriting of the rules in order to make sure it remains clear for once the game is started, so once I've decided my decision is indeed final the first post and the game concept thread will be updated appropriately..

Also I may slightly adjust the number of capitols required to win as the numbers given were for the full intended compliment of 24 players. Chances are any changes made would be minor, and largely to account for the lesser quantity of overlords.

[kianduatha]

On the plus side for the normal nation, though, you might be able to convince other overlords that you are much less dangerous having the capital. At least that might work with the first capital--after that, they might be less helpful.

[atul]

Well my problem was when capital was considered no more as a capital (when not in possession of original owner, when original owner is dead, for the whole game). Since people usually talk about X's capitals even when the original nation is gone.

[Squirrelloid]

Originally Posted by atul

Well my problem was when capital was considered no more as a capital (when not in possession of original owner, when original owner is dead, for the whole game). Since people usually talk about X's capitals even when the original nation is gone.

Capitol has multiple uses, indeed. When people say X's capitol, and X no longer holds it, they're using it as shorthand for X's former capitol. To actually be a capitol it must meet the definition of capitol (center of government, etc... which seems to mean access to the capitol only recruitables in game).