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Wdll · #1 September 9th, 2009, 11:43 AM

Snipers were used as reccon troops? When and where? I am not aware of any army sending first snipers to scout. Only here some people do it.

harlikwin · #2 September 9th, 2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wdll

Snipers were used as reccon troops? When and where? I am not aware of any army sending first snipers to scout. Only here some people do it.

US marine scout snipers by doctrine are probably the best example, or UK snipers. Usually they are used more as FO's or scouts rather than shooting (which of course they can do too).

More to the point snipers or even designated marksmen usually are far better trained to spot and identify enemy personnel or equipment (can't shoot what you can't see). And in past decades 40's-90's the fact they were well equipped with optics compared to other troops should IMO give them some sort "vision" rating (5-10 early on, perhaps more in later decades).

shilka77 · #3 September 21st, 2009, 05:51 PM

I found another nation that has been upgrading its armed forces to new standards in 2009 scenarios. Syria has updated its tanks.

T-55/55MV (2150) Modernization Level Of T-64BM Bulat
T-62M/K (1000) Modernization Level Of T-72BM
T-72/72M (1600) Modernization Level Of T-90S
T-80UK (320)

This can be verified at this link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Army

Hope it helps

shilka77

shilka77 · #4 September 21st, 2009, 06:35 PM

A link for the T-64 Bulat Main Battle Tank

http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t64bm_bulat.htm

T-72B(M) T-72B obr.1989g - T-72B equipped with advanced Kontakt-5 explosive reactive armour, composite armour in sides of turret as well. Often called T-72BM or T-72B(M) but this is not correct. NATO code: SMT M1990. This may very well fall under T-72BM "Rogatka" programme hard to tell when it comes to T-72s they come in so many different shapes and colours. Why downgrade their fleet of T72AV to standard BM?

An old link for T-72BM standard

http://fofanov.armor.kiev.ua/

A link for the T-90S Main Battle Tank

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/t90/

A link with for the T-80UK Command Tank

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/t80/

I were to slow 30M had expired to update the message.

Anyway additional information

Mobhack · #5 September 22nd, 2009, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by shilka77

A link for the T-64 Bulat Main Battle Tank

http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t64bm_bulat.htm

T-72B(M) T-72B obr.1989g - T-72B equipped with advanced Kontakt-5 explosive reactive armour, composite armour in sides of turret as well. Often called T-72BM or T-72B(M) but this is not correct. NATO code: SMT M1990. This may very well fall under T-72BM "Rogatka" programme hard to tell when it comes to T-72s they come in so many different shapes and colours. Why downgrade their fleet of T72AV to standard BM?

An old link for T-72BM standard

http://fofanov.armor.kiev.ua/

A link for the T-90S Main Battle Tank

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/t90/

A link with for the T-80UK Command Tank

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/t80/

I were to slow 30M had expired to update the message.

Anyway additional information

If you have any issues with the OOB data, then please post it in the TO&E forum. After firstly reading the error reporting sticky post in there, of course.

Andy

dacis2 · #6 September 23rd, 2009, 05:56 AM

Top on my wishlist would be a Singaporean OOB. Indonesia and Malaysia get one, I don't see why we shouldn't.

Marcello · #7 September 25th, 2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by shilka77

I found another nation that has been upgrading its armed forces to new standards in 2009 scenarios. Syria has updated its tanks.

T-55/55MV (2150) Modernization Level Of T-64BM Bulat
T-62M/K (1000) Modernization Level Of T-72BM
T-72/72M (1600) Modernization Level Of T-90S
T-80UK (320)

This can be verified at this link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Army

Hope it helps

shilka77

Actually the above article is a perfect example of why wikipedia is the butt of so many jokes. Now, I am not perfectly up to date when it comes to syrian army but rest assured they don't have 320 T-80UK. That's simply more than the total number ever built.
Nor are their T-55/T-72 modernization (I don't know if they even bothered with the T-62s) as effective or widespread as implied.

Marek_Tucan · #8 September 29th, 2009, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcello

Actually the above article is a perfect example of why wikipedia is the butt of so many jokes. Now, I am not perfectly up to date when it comes to syrian army but rest assured they don't have 320 T-80UK. That's simply more than the total number ever built.
Nor are their T-55/T-72 modernization (I don't know if they even bothered with the T-62s) as effective or widespread as implied.

Yep, making T-72M1 with TURMS-T variant, light ERA and if you are lucky, few ATGMs an equal to T-90 is a stretch... As is any T-62 modernisation "equal to T-72BM". It simply cannot be done.

Mobhack · #9 September 29th, 2009, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Marek_Tucan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcello

Actually the above article is a perfect example of why wikipedia is the butt of so many jokes. Now, I am not perfectly up to date when it comes to syrian army but rest assured they don't have 320 T-80UK. That's simply more than the total number ever built.
Nor are their T-55/T-72 modernization (I don't know if they even bothered with the T-62s) as effective or widespread as implied.

Yep, making T-72M1 with TURMS-T variant, light ERA and if you are lucky, few ATGMs an equal to T-90 is a stretch... As is any T-62 modernisation "equal to T-72BM". It simply cannot be done.

This is drifting off the original topic - if you need to discuss T-72 variants then it would be better to start a new thread in the TO&E section.

Cheers
Andy