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View Poll Results: How should magic be handled in the Master of Magic Mod?
Units should keep their magic paths. 8 27.59%
Units should lose their magic paths and have ranged attacks with ammo. Heroes keep magic. 13 44.83%
Magic should be removed from everyone except wizards. 8 27.59%
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 11:03 PM
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I would create the MOM nations and units, but balance them like other dom3 nations, i think that in general magic in MoM isn´t more powerful than in dominions.
Eventually that is exactly what I plan to do at least with MY personal version of the mod. You guys are going to get a version that is as true to the original as I can do, and then maybe my expanded version.

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Units like warlocks and magicians shouldn´t be mages IMO, make them regular troops with new ranged attacks. That would be more in line with MoM design. Then add some new corresponding mages like Elder warlock, High magician etc with appropriate paths.
I agree with the first part of this, and I am leaning heavily towards changing them back. It won't be hard. Dark Elves already have a weak magic attack, I can just modify it for the shamen and magicians.

As for the second part, that is what I pretty much planned to do to integrate it into my megamod I play with.

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Would it be possible to make a spell that summons a random hero? All nations could get it and then you just add all the MOM heroes as unique summons to that random pool.
I am not sure that is possible. I could do it to a certain extent by overwriting the elemental royalty etc, but I hate to do that. I guess it wouldn't be a big deal if I wiped out all the dominion spells and only added MOM spells. Currently, Heroes are assigned to nations much like they are in Dom3. Most nations have two heroes, weaker nations like the Gnolls have 3 heroes that can show up. Wizards are starting scouts.


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I agree, this MoM mod sounds extremely cool. It must have been a ton of work!
Hehe, to give you an idea. I started the Dark Elves and the Klackons in patch 3.04. I originally ripped and used the original graphics from the game. I didn't like the look, so then I redid every single sprite using dom3 sprites as the base. So I have done every single sprite and attack animation in the game twice!

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I'd like to see it out of balance with vanilla: Units should lose their magic paths and have ranged attacks with ammo. Heroes keep magic. I don't see a need to mix the MoM nations with vanilla, and I'd prefer it more like the original MoM.
I expect most people will feel the same way, and I hope that is the case because it would be infinitely easier for me to actually finish this mod if that is the case; the only hard stuff left would be adding what spells will actually translate over. I also need to redo a few graphics I am just not satisfied with.

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If your Gnolls capture the Halfling capitol (or forts), you won't be able to recruit slingers, right? And there's no additional unrest, right? Different from original MoM IIRC, but pretty nice for keeping everyone's armies unique.
Partially correct. The way it works right now is if you take their capital you CAN recruit their units. But there is no unrest and taking their other forts results in you being able to produce your units.


A few other tidbits that may be helpful:

The storyline for the nation/unit descriptions centers around the 14 wizards and races being banished by someone on Arcanus casting the spell of Mastery. While rotting away in the void, the wizards worked together to form a rift and landed in the Dominions universe. The idea is that the Wizards and the races they led on Arcanus and Myrror serve a fledging god in order to establish themselves in this new world.

The current mod is 14 mods (will be 15 including the spell/base) that can be toggled on and off to allow or disallow certain nations.
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The storyline for the nation/unit descriptions centers around the 14 wizards and races being banished by someone on Arcanus casting the spell of Mastery. While rotting away in the void, the wizards worked together to form a rift and landed in the Dominions universe. The idea is that the Wizards and the races they led on Arcanus and Myrror serve a fledging god in order to establish themselves in this new world.
Er...so the wizards themselves are not pretenders, then? Are you aligning particular wizards with particular races, then? (I always used the custom option, myself, so I no longer remember what the MoM "defaults" are.) So in this case, race == nation, with a preselected wizard as (presumably non-recruitable) starting scout?

Personally, I'd go with the Wizards == Pretenders option, as you're quite likely to lose your wizard pretty quickly otherwise, and no way to summon them back from the void.
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