Windows 7? - Page 2

Zonks · #1 November 22nd, 2009, 08:01 AM

Windowed mode works fine.

DRG · #2 November 22nd, 2009, 03:36 PM

I never run full screen, always windowed mode.

98% of the time I'm in the game it's for development and I need access to other programs that are running and at any one time that could mean the game, paint Shop Pro, a text editor, outlook express, internet explorer , windows explorer and sometimes Borland C++ builder. I have, on occasion, had all that AND both winSPWW2 and winSPMBT running

That's with a 7 year old computer running XP

The game generally works better in windowed mode in 99% of the cases where full screen is an issue . The only issue I have with full screen is the palette is slightly off with all colours shifted a bit to red and magenta so not only does full screen not allow me easy access to these other programs while I play or test it doesn't give me optimal colour either.,

We included both modes because at the time with all the different OS and computer set ups this offered the best way to ensure virtually everyone would find one mode to suit them best. Unfortunately what has happened is " full screen" is being treated as the primary way to play the game and that was never the intent when we set up both modes. If one mode works better on your machine than the other then that's the mode you should be using for your machine. Full screen is NOT the mode players should be using if they have problems like this. That's why both modes are included.

Don

jfcottigny · #3 November 27th, 2009, 04:11 AM

Hello all !
I do have exactly the same screen than the one showed by Zonks, but never went further in the game when having this screen. I'll try.
And agreed about Avast, when disconnecting it I have a chance to play, while otherwise one can do anything, it doesn't work in full screen. Maybe have to accept windowed (I have the CD, but never liked this windowed version...).
Regards and greetings to you all, you anyhow do a magnificent work we all appreciate !

demyansk · #4 December 20th, 2009, 10:28 AM

I had the same problem with the psychedelic screen in this game and also SPWAW. I run it in the Windowed format and its perfect.

By the way, I purchasing the cd enhanced version will it allow me to play full screen? I have a 24" widescreen monitor

Mobhack · #5 December 20th, 2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by demyansk

I had the same problem with the psychedelic screen in this game and also SPWAW. I run it in the Windowed format and its perfect.

By the way, I purchasing the cd enhanced version will it allow me to play full screen? I have a 24" widescreen monitor

It is the same game, so if your video card is barfing on 256 colour full-screen mode now, it will still barf on 256 colour full screen mode. Your hardware has not changed in any way.

Full screen windowed mode is already described in the posts above, so simply follow the advice already given once you get the cd version. The relevant item is your screen size in pixels, and not the inch size. e,g 1024 by 768 mode worked fine on my 1024 by 600 wide-screen netbook as a full screen window mode there. It simply displayed the game in a 1024 by (600-XP task bar height) window.

Andy

DRG · #6 December 20th, 2009, 11:24 AM

If you have problems running it in FS with the DL version your have trouble with the CD version but you will be able to run windowed at the higher resolutions which should hopefully fill your screen. Let us know how it works out

I assume then that becasue WaW only runs full screen it was unplayable for you or was there a workaround ?

Don

Imp · #7 December 20th, 2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DRG

If you have problems running it in FS with the DL version your have trouble with the CD version but you will be able to run windowed at the higher resolutions which should hopefully fill your screen. Let us know how it works out

I assume then that becasue WaW only runs full screen it was unplayable for you or was there a workaround ?

Don

Long time since I played but WAW was unstable graphicly in XP without serious tinkering.

TheDesertFox · #8 December 25th, 2009, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer3

Steel Panthers is still in my top ten of PC games. I'm getting a new PC soon which will have Windows 7. Any thoughts on how this game will function on Windows 7 would be appreciated.
Thanks.

Never had any problems running win-spww2 or win-spmbt from Win Seven. I have 3 machines here: One desktop pc with a nvidia gtx260 running seven-x64, another desktop with a nvidia 7950 running seven-x86 and a laptop with an ati chip running seven-x86. All is running smoothly as it did before with vista-x64 and x86. Only problem that still persists is the intro bug (disable intro and all is fine).

Happy Holydays from a former SP-Camo Beta Guy

cheers

Helge

DRG · #9 December 26th, 2009, 10:54 AM

Helge, were all those machines upgraded to Windows 7 or where they new machines with Win 7 already installed ? ( I'm guessing they were upgraded but IDK for sure )

Do you think the reason some people are having trouble with Win 7 is hardware related ( older sound or video cards etc ) or related to setting up the game to work with Win 7 ??

Did you need to adjust any settings to get the games to work with either the Vista or Win 7 ?

Don

TheDesertFox · #10 December 27th, 2009, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DRG

Helge, were all those machines upgraded to Windows 7 or where they new machines with Win 7 already installed ? ( I'm guessing they were upgraded but IDK for sure )

Do you think the reason some people are having trouble with Win 7 is hardware related ( older sound or video cards etc ) or related to setting up the game to work with Win 7 ??

Did you need to adjust any settings to get the games to work with either the Vista or Win 7 ?

Don

Don,

I did clean installs on all machines as follows:

1.) Backup all personal important data by manual copying on usb-harddrives
2.) Reboot with the Win-Seven DVD
3.) Repartition the drives to your personal needs and format the drives with NTFS
4.) Install Win-Seven
5.) Manually copy the Win-SPWW2 and Win-SPMBT folder back to your drives
6.) Manually create a desktop link to gameoptions.exe of MBT and SPWW2
7.) Copy this link to your desktop
8.) Right click on the link and set in the compatibility mode "run as admin"

I run both games on all machines in windowed mode, because I have 1600x1200 and 1600x1080 resolution on my PCs and 1280x800 res on my laptop. Only thing I switched off in the gamesoptions app was the intro, since this killed the games due to whatever incompatibility with vista/win7.

Yes, I´m pretty convinced problems to run WinMBT and WinSPWW2 properly are caused due to device/graphic/sound driver issues, since the games seem to use standard Direct-3D and sound API calls. I even can run the two games without having them installed on the harddrives from a 2 gig USB Stick. I indeed already used this method for my pc at work where this method also worked.

I think you can easily test a whole spectrum of OS compatibility by using Microsoft Virtual PC, where you can check out XP/VISTA/Windows Server in Virtual Desktop machines. IIRC I made a post about this last year or even longer in the past.

Ahh, here it is:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...virtual&page=2

and here:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showp...01&postcount=9

So running the games from a virtual XP machine might be a last help measure for some folks, where due to whatever reason all other help might fail.

cheers

Helge