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Old June 27th, 2002, 08:56 PM

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Planetary weapons has the Smart Bombs for taking out Resupply Depots and Space Ports. They are in the upper half of the field, at tech levels 8, 9, 10 but it's not a very expensive field. You might possibly move them to computers, since they involve 'homing' technology that has to figure out which facility is to be the target. I wouldn't move them down very far in the Planetary Weapons field, though. They can be very powerful. A drone with a 'smart bomb' warhead might be even more effective than a ship armed with the direct-fire weapon. You could send a swarm of drones fairly cheaply (erm, if drones are modded to be cheaper... )
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tks, Baron couldn't remember which one, I agree, moving them would be a better idea, one reason is that a lot of players don't research to far into planetary weapons at first because most of your beam weapons will do the same thing as the napalm etc. so it usually is done later in the game. Moving them so they become more readily researched might be the way to go making their use more important especially for raiding units.
Again, I think it comes down to too many weapons being able to pound a planet, maybe more restriction as to weapons or only certain types??
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MOO2 simply cut beam weapon strength in half for planet attacks. Missles and bombs were not reduced. I just swarmed the planets with missiles.

Anyway, it seems like a nice fix. But I'm not sure if it would be easy to do in SEIV.

It maybe easier to add special WP armor and double planetary weapon power.

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Damage Points To Kill One Population := 200

Just increase this number to a hugh amount in your settings.txt and do the same for your planetary weapons. That will mostly solve the problem but your "nuclear" capital ship missiles will will hardly kill anyone.

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Damage Points To Kill One Population := 200

Just increase this number to a hugh amount in your settings.txt and do the same for your planetary weapons. That will mostly solve the problem but your "nuclear" capital ship missiles will will hardly kill anyone.
No, that falls onto one horn of precisely the dilemma we are trying to avoid. Planetary weapons will then be able to smash WPs to dust.

We need to be able to damage WPs in a reasonable way with standard weapons without being able to wipe out the population, and able to damage population with planetary weapons without being able to effortlessly annihilate WPs. We cannot 'balance' the system with the available options. Either standard ship weapons are too powerful against planets or 'planetary' weapons are too powerful against planets. The problem is just that.

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"No, that falls onto one horn of precisely the dilemma we are trying to avoid. Planetary weapons will then be able to smash WPs to dust."

Bump the WP's health up then. Fairly simple to add a WP-only mount that adds large amounts of hit points to them (troops too, though that's a bit diceyer). Then only facilities are vulnerable.

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MOO2 simply cut beam weapon strength in half for planet attacks. Missles and bombs were not reduced. I just swarmed the planets with missiles.

Anyway, it seems like a nice fix. But I'm not sure if it would be easy to do in SEIV.

It maybe easier to add special WP armor and double planetary weapon power.
You may only want to double the planetary napalm.
WP armor, ie total unit damage resistance, could be easily increased by raising damage resistance of WP computer. Only drawback is that it does not scale with WP size.

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