Mod: Venexia, the most serene republic

[Squirrelloid]

Originally Posted by LDiCesare

With no astral, death or blood, what options will they have in the late game? Unless you find some national spell (summon?) to replace tartarians, wishes and such, they're going to seriously hurt.

They can't possibly be worse off than EA Atlantis. Or EA Oceania. Or MA Oceania. Or MA Man. Or... well, this list is actually rather large.

Getting into death via pretender with what is likely to be a large water income is actually pretty doable, since Streams from Hades gives you a respectable W3D3 caster, and only requires W4D1 to cast. (The pretender can use other options to break into death, of course, but there's nothing like using water gems to do it).

Anyone who really cares can break into blood the hard way. Alternately, Lamia Queens. (Who also get you into death).

Astral is... harder. But once you're in Death there's Summon Spectre which often gets S1-S2.

I mean, its not pretty, but you can get endgame magic by the time endgame rolls around if you plan ahead for it.