tholians

[Fyron]

SFB isn't canon, so ships don't have to look like what SFB ships look like.

[Baron Munchausen]

Originally posted by oleg:
After reading the stormy discussion about Gorn ship set, I believe my Tholians insulted quite a few trekkies. Therefore I am inclined to make them some other race and never ever again touch anything ST related. Please vote what should I do: keep them or change ?

It's a nice shipset. Keep it. If you are concerned about 'authenticity' then make another set based on the SFB images. You could call the SFB based set Tholians and call your first set something else, and give them a backstory about being the race from another galaxy come to get the Tholians!

Apparently the 'backstory' for the Tholians is that they are refugees from another galaxy where they had an empire and enslaved other races. When the plebes rebelled and started to slaughter the rulers, some of them gathered up some ships and fled. And arrived here.

[Pax]

Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
It's a nice shipset. Keep it. If you are concerned about 'authenticity' then make another set based on the SFB images. You could call the SFB based set Tholians and call your first set something else, and give them a backstory about being the race from another galaxy come to get the Tholians!

LOL, those would be the Seltorian Tribunal. 8) I don't have images or SSD's for their ships though, sorry.

Apparently the 'backstory' for the Tholians is that they are refugees from another galaxy where they had an empire and enslaved other races. When the plebes rebelled and started to slaughter the rulers, some of them gathered up some ships and fled. And arrived here.

Specifically, the Tholians in the Trek / SFB galaxy were backwater oliticians and rural police, whomoved their system -- yes, you heard right, the WHOLE SYSTEM, which was a Dyson Sphere (think Sphereworld) -- across from the Tholian Old Home Galaxy, to here. They've resisted the urge to initiate a war of conquest ... because they're laying low, trying not to attract the attention of their former servitor-races back in the Home Galaxy; the Klingons dislike them because the Holdfast occupies what was once a fringe province of the Klingon Empire ... but the Tholians excel at defense, so ...

During the Great War, when the Holdfast itself (their "home" system, the sphereworld mentioned above) was threatened by the combined Coalition forces (Klingon, Romulan, and IIRC even some Lyran Star Empire ships were present), the "NeoTholians", remnants of a Tholian -Naval- squadron, arrived on scene ... saving the day, as the Coalition forces weren't able to adapt their tactics rapidly enough to counter the new technologies (largely Webcasters, and -true- warship hulls and designs) the "Neo" Tholians brought with them.

Well, the Alliance fleets (Federation, Kzin, Gorn, perhaps a Hydran expeditionary fleet) there to assist helped too, but it was the NeoTholians who truly turned the tide of battle.

...

Later, the Seltorians did track down the Trek-galaxy Tholians, arriving on a mission of total genocide; various Alliance fleets managed to destroy the Tribunal fleets, but that's a bit of Tholian history I'm a bit fuzzy on (I prefer pre-Seltorian era Tholian ships, myself).

[oleg]

If even Pax does not mind, I'll keep them as it is for a time being. once anybody creates more "authentic" ship set, I have no objections to rename them as a some sort of Tholian bashers, as Baron and Pax suggested. Seltorian Tribunal sounds nice

[Atrocities]

Oleg, too hell with what others think. IF they are so high and mighty on Star Trek, then let them make their own ship sets. I honestly didn't see any one else step up to bat to make the Tholians except you. Therefor my friend, your Tholians are THE Tholians for me.

[oleg]

I made another attempt to improve carriers/fighter:

1027947910.zip

Also, I'm working on "canon" tholian ship set.
Here is a sample:

1027948133.zip

I do not like coloring scheme at all, but it follows (more or less closely) SFB blueprints.
Should I change it ?

I also have no idea how carriers, bases, fighters, etc. should look like.

[oleg]

*Bump*

Just wondering if anybody took a look.