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January 11th, 2010, 08:35 AM
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Re: Australian tank squadrons
Thanks for looking into this Pat
This shows that in 1968 they were using a 3 tanks per troop , 4 troops per squadron organization. ( and interesting how 1968 can be easily transposed to 1986 which is what we have now ) We had the four tank troop lasting until 1985 so the whole things off and will need a good going over and a good tweak of the picklist once the actual dates are firmed up. I will continue to dig for info and welcome any info anyone can provide.
Don
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January 13th, 2010, 03:10 AM
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Re: Australian tank squadrons
Don,
Read your last, it's easy enough to do! This is JUST an update and NO response is required. I actually heard back from the ADF PAO. An MR4 James O'Callaghan who's offered further asst. if needed, based on his recommendation have forwarded his reply and my inquiry with the ADF's War Museum and Calvary & Armored Museum. Will keep you posted.
Pat
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Reason: Misspelled James name, sorry!
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June 10th, 2013, 07:52 PM
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Re: Australian tank squadrons
This was the Thread I was thinking about it does confirm the order of 59 M1A1 tanks and support units from an email recieved by Mr. Mick Martin. Answers will be posted to TDRs Thread.
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June 10th, 2013, 09:10 PM
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Re: Australian tank squadrons
Small note and your choice on how you use it:
2007 doctrine documents:
Sqn Structure
Sqn HQ
- 2 x M1A1
- 2 x M113 AS3 or AS4 APC
Sqn Trp x 3
- 4 x M1A1
A slight varience is
Sqn HQ
- 2 x M1A1
- 2 x M113 AS 3 or AS4 APC
- 1 x M113 AS 3 or AS4 ACP
Sqn Trp x 3
- 4 x M1A1
Earlier documentation ( Leopard based units)
I don’t have the date on this document about 2004
Sqn Structure
Sqn HQ
- 2 x Leopard AS1
- 2 x M113 AS3 or AS4 APC
Sqn Trp x 4
- 3 x Leopard AS1
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June 10th, 2013, 11:19 PM
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Re: Australian tank squadrons
Just to add to your complete confusion on the Australian Tank Sqn structures over time.
Now these are based on official doctrine structures. Ref dates where I have them.
Official doctrine structure re Armour Sqn,
Doc dated 1970,
Sqn Hq
- 2 x MBT (Centurion)
- 2 x APC (read M113)
- 1 x LRV (read M113)
Sqn Tp x 4
- 4 x MBT
Doc dated 1971,
Sqn Hq
- 2 x MBT (Centurion)
- 2 x LRV (read M113)
Sqn Tp x 4
- 4 x MBT
Doc dated 1975,
Sqn Hq
- 2 x MBT (Centurion)
- 2 x LRV (read M113)
Sqn Tp x 4
- 4 x MBT
Doc dated 1981,
Sqn Hq
- 2 x MBT (Centurion)
- 2 x LRV (read M113)
Sqn Tp x 4
- 3 x MBT
Doc dated 1984,
Sqn Hq
- 2 x MBT (Centurion)
- 2 x LRV (read M113)
Sqn Tp x 4
- 3 x MBT
Doc dated 1996
Sqn Hq
- 2 x MBT (Centurion)
- 2 x LRV (read M113)
Sqn Tp x 4
- 3 x MBT
documentation (Leopard based units). I don’t have the date on this document about 2004
Sqn Structure
Sqn HQ
- 2 x Leopard AS1
- 2 x M113 AS3 or AS4 APC
Sqn Trp x 4
- 3 x Leopard AS1
2007 doctrine documents:
Sqn Structure
Sqn HQ
- 2 x M1A1
- 2 x M113 AS3 or AS4 APC
Sqn Trp x 3
- 4 x M1A1
A slight varience is (second source)
Sqn HQ
- 2 x M1A1
- 2 x M113 AS 3 or AS4 APC
- 1 x M113 AS 3 or AS4 ACP
Sqn Trp x 3
- 4 x M1A1
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