Diplomacy ethics

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Originally Posted by Psycho

I knew what example you were going to bring up. You can't expect everyone to react the way you like.

I don't see the point you are trying to make here.

Originally Posted by Psycho

You can't expect everyone to be a good sport or to take losing well.

I think I'll add that to the OP of games I start. "I expect everyone to be a good sport and to take losing well." Seriously. If someone can't, because they're still 9 years old or something, well, they should get off the computer and go play outside or something.

Originally Posted by Psycho

It's part of the human nature. We are all different, and take this game more or less seriously.

Okay, now it sounds like you are trolling. If we are all different, then we don't all take this game seriously.

[GrudgeBringer]

I don't take this game any more seriously than I take a Rugby game, once I walk off the field and the score is posted.

I won't have a 'dustup' with the guy that gave me a cheap shot, but I will dang sure watch for him the next game.

What does your comment about being "nine years old" have to do with taking the game more or less seriously?

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Originally Posted by GrudgeBringer

... What does your comment about being "nine years old" have to do with taking the game more or less seriously?

This commend wasn't about taking the game seriously, it was in response to Psycho's comment: "You can't expect everyone to be a good sport or to take losing well."

I've got a kid who's 6. He's a pretty good kid, but if he plays a game and loses, sometimes he gets upset and cries. He hasn't learned to be a good sport yet. I don't expect that he should be a good sport about losing at only 6 years old, and I think a few more more years will pass before he has gradually learned to be a gracious loser (and winner).

I'd expect anyone old enough to be playing dominions would be mature enough to be a good sport.

[GrudgeBringer]

Yes Sir, that I agree with completely!!!

[Fantomen]

I for one base my diplomacy on roleplay. If I am playing a sneaky backstabbing bastard, then I'll stick to that. If I'm playing a honourable divine prescence, I'll stick to that.

I would also value a diplomatic relation much higher if good roleplay has been exchanged in the process. While I wouldn't care nearly as much if the only communication had been for example: "NAP3?" answered by "Ok"

[Psycho]

By "being a good sport" I meant something different than understood. It was not a synonym for being a gratuitous loser, but rather meant ingame sportsmanlike behavior such as not making cheap shots, not using exploits, not throwing game, etc. I can perfectly understand someone getting upset about unsportsmanlike behavior and letting off the vent in the forums, thus creating drama. Ideally you would have neither drama, nor cause for it. Don't get me wrong here, obviously the part with calling names and insulting is too much. But, I can understand someone getting pissed for being backstabbed in certain situations (Setsumi one included). It's easy to be a gratuitous loser when you lost a fair fight and that is not what I had in mind. How about losing a five to one dogpile or because another player gave away his VPs? It would be reasonable to expect certain things from players, but as the practice proves, you really cannot.