winSPWW2 v4.0 -- 3 CORRECTED OOBs

[EpoletovSPR]

It is not necessary to place winSP in a folder " Program files ".
In Windows7 there are with it small problems. For example games it is difficult to insert into folder PBEM new Save-files.
I know, that it can be corrected, but for not skilled players the best variant to place game in a separate folder on disk C or D.

Also because of it it is difficult to replace OOB-files.
From it also there are problems.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by EpoletovSPR

It is not necessary to place winSP in a folder " Program files ".
In Windows7 there are with it small problems. For example games it is difficult to insert into folder PBEM new Save-files.
I know, that it can be corrected, but for not skilled players the best variant to place game in a separate folder on disk C or D.

Also because of it it is difficult to replace OOB-files.
From it also there are problems.

Yes, I know. We tell people that right in the patch installer. Putting the game in Program Files was not my idea. That was a requirement of Shrapnel. I was prepared right from the start to have it installed directly into the C: drive and had I been allowed to do that a huge number of headaches would have been averted.

Don

[Sgt_Walrus]

Don

I have posted at The Blitz (before I posted here) to all players that there was a new patch (v4.0) and also an OOB fix.
I linked to this site (where the files live)and also cut and pasted the installing instructions into the post at the Blitz.

Short of going to everyone's house and holding their hand while they install I do not know what more I can do.

Please take this seriously, it's not due to negligence on my, or our players, behalf.

Since I made the earlier post, I have been collecting data.

Since the v4.0 patch came out, there have been many mentions of error messages re. OOB...player one obat has changed and similar.

I have only one v4.0 (with no OOB fix) game going and as far as I know, there are no error messages. However, my opponent is a Spanish speaker and our communications are limited.

I have also run a test with a long time PBEM player. We have both v4.0 and v4.0+OOB fix installed.
I started both battles, made it to P1 T1 with no error...but just got the files back from Vesku and he is saying that both games are showing this message
player one obat has changed

EDIT: On opening my T2, there are error messages in both v4.0 and v4.0+OOB fix that P1 has a 'changed OOB'or similar.
When I opened T1 previously, there were no error messages.
It only seems to happen after P2 has opened their T1 (as opposed to the initial file swap and setting up of PW etc)

I know for a fact that I have changed nothing in my OOB (I always use stock OOBs) since v3.5
For both games to be showing the error shows that it is not just to do with the OOB fix.

There seems to be some sort of...dare I say it...bug here somewhere.

Games set up using Basic Security can be played by just ignoring the messages...but if the players wish to use Full Security...then they are stuck.

I attach both save game files.
My p/w for these games is axel

If you need Vesku's p/w...let me know and I will get it to you.

I hope that I provided enough info to prompt to you to have a look and see what is going on.
Please note that this is not some snafu due to the incompetence of the gamers...you know that I have been playing this game PBEM for years, and so have most of the guys that are recording these issues.

Regards
Jason - Sgt. Walrus

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Sgt_Walrus

Please take this seriously, it's not due to negligence on my, or our players, behalf.

Given you have been a playtester IDK HOW you could even SUGGEST we don't take things like this "seriously" Give me a break

Originally Posted by Sgt_Walrus

I have also run a test with a long time PBEM player. We have both v4.0 and v4.0+OOB fix installed.
I started both battles, made it to P1 T1 with no error...but just got the files back from Vesku and he is saying that both games are showing this message
player one obat has changed

just to be clear. You have one game going with stock v4.0 OOB and another entirley different install of the game with the three altered OOB's

Correct ??

What you don't tell me is which nations you are playing with for this test game ( yes it's relevant ) and you don't tell me if both you and your test opponent have installed the corrected OOB's into the default OOB folder as well as the main OOB folder.

I also don't know if the bulk of these reports started before or after the OOB fix was released and given the fix and the patch were close together the possibility of one side or the other not having upgraded their game before starting a PBEM is high.

So far what I have is one confirmed report that two stock ver4 OOB games are working OK without a problem and no reports on this forum of any unusual PBEM problems.


Don

[Sgt_Walrus]

Hi
Perhaps I can preempt some other questions.

I have not changed anything about my computer hardware, nor general software between v3.5 and v4.0.

I patched up in exactly the same way I have successfully patched up ever other patch you have released. Exactly.

I have one game going in v4.0 which has shown no error messages.
I have had error message since then using that same install.

I have a second install of v4.0 that has the OOB fix.
It has shown obat error for each game I have tested on it. Two different players so far.

Cheers
Jason

[Mobhack]

Originally Posted by Sgt_Walrus

Hi
Perhaps I can preempt some other questions.

I have not changed anything about my computer hardware, nor general software between v3.5 and v4.0.

I patched up in exactly the same way I have successfully patched up ever other patch you have released. Exactly.

I have one game going in v4.0 which has shown no error messages.
I have had error message since then using that same install.

I have a second install of v4.0 that has the OOB fix.
It has shown obat error for each game I have tested on it. Two different players so far.

Cheers
Jason

I'd like a copy of the actual OOBS that you both are using for the testing. That should rule out whether or not someone has a different set. (Plus allied OOBs if someone bought foreign troops).

Also - a note of the game version number as shown on the main screen for each player. (It is at the centre of the bottom of the screen).

cheers
Andy

[Mobhack]

I have just tried that save game - which gave a player 1 OOB problem.

As a test, I set up ANZAC v Japan in 42 and tried a left hand v right hand PBEM, and with no problems.

Therefore I am tending to lean towards an OOB mismatch in this case as a first guess.

Cheers
Andy