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[rdonj]

Bigdaddy - if you read the thread, then you would know that me and ermor have been allied or NAPed since basically the beginning of the game. I am not abandoning the game for losing or any such nonsense. If I were to do that, it would have been on the eve of the battle that saw benjaminite slingers slaughter a fully equipped golem in melee. Now that was depressing. In actuality, I am abandoning this game because I need to drop all of my dominions games. This particular game could easily last 40 more turns, and with the hosting interval as it is that could take months. I don't have the time to keep playing anymore, so I need to leave. Simple as that.

Second, though pan is very powerful, unless he is much more powerful than what I've seen from him indicates, I believe either gath or ermor could defeat him by themself. Gath in particular has insane amounts of artifacts, and pan has only recently become as powerful as they are.

Third, before you decide to direct incredibly insulting and uncalled for posts at people, please make sure that you have the remotest idea what you are talking about.

Fourth, I would love to see you try to win this game, lol.

Edit: And for the record, me and pan expanded at roughly the same rate, with me ending up just a bit bigger after the end of the initial expansion.