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[WraithLord]

Vote on VPs. Options are 9,10 or 11. Results:
9: 2
10: 6
11: 3

10 VPs it is.

[Calahan]

Quick map update - My available free time hasn't exactly gone to plan over the last two days, but hope to get the map finished before the weekend so that the game can be created for Pretender uploads well before the scheduled start on Sunday 4th April. (Since I think it's only the map that is being waited on for game creation now that the number of VP's has been decided upon)

[WraithLord]

Thank you Calahan. Indeed, once the map is ready I'll setup the game on the server.

[rdonj]

Okay, it is poll time. One of the players, considering using a phoenix as a pretender, found out that they still have the bug where they can die permanently from being trampled to death. They were wondering if an altered version of CBM could be used in which the phoenix was size 6, to avoid the possibility of getting killed off stupidly that way. Wraithlord is a bit against the idea, but is willing to open it up for discussion. So please vote, for size 6 phoenixes, or against?

Originally Posted by Calahan

Also, I'm not sure exactly what parts of the map need to be uploaded to the llamaserver. I'd guess the .map file for definite, but not sure about the .tga file though. Although I'm sure someone with far more map knowledge than me will be able to provide the answers to this

Both will be need to be uploaded to the server, since you have created a new image file. When you try to upload one, it will ask for the other. At least if the name is different from the version currently on the llamaserver.

[WraithLord]

If the name is not different then I'll change it manually (and in the .map) before ULing it.

As for poll, I'm against this b/c I can't foresee how it will effect balance. It seems trivial but go figure, it's not like the change was tested or was part of CBM so that ppl would have time to consider the ripple effect it may have. We are that close to starting the game and I personally would like to keep changes to a minimum. I am all for Calahan's fixes to the map but would like to keep the changes at that and nothing more.
In short. I vote no.

[Calahan]

@ All

Attached is version 0.9 of the map. I have now done all the essential visual changes like adding rivers and re-arranging the province borders to match the changes to the connections I've made. I may yet make some more visual alterations to the map for the final version. This will happen if I get time to play test the map a lot more than I have done, and maybe balance the starts a bit more for income, resources etc. by adding grasslands or forests. Plus I may add a forest or two as I mentioned before to make up for all the forests being lost with forest starts.


The additions to the change-log are.......

New Land Connections

164 - 187 --- To ensure four adjoining for capital at 164.

Removed Land Connections

75 - 97 --- Removed connection to match the new visuals in that area.
182 - 170 -- Removed connection to match the new visuals in that area.


As usual, please let me know asap if you spot any errors. Be they visual or map this time

There are two files attached. The small download is the .map file that you need for the connection changes, and the large file is the .tga file which you need to see the visual changes to the map. If you are not that interested in play testing the map, then you can wait to download the .tga file until nearer the start time (save having to download a large file twice). I'll also get WraithLord to attach everything to the OP once I finish the final version.

TTFN


@ WraithLord - Give me another 48 hours to finish up the map completely. But if I don't get it done by say 18:00 Friday GMT, then go ahead and create the game using the map I've attached to this post if you like. I've mostly finished it, but as I said above, maybe one or two of the starts can be tweaked a bit for income/resource balance. Doubt it'll make a huge difference, but will look at it if I get time over the next two days.

Also, I'm not sure exactly what parts of the map need to be uploaded to the llamaserver. I'd guess the .map file for definite, but not sure about the .tga file though. Although I'm sure someone with far more map knowledge than me will be able to provide the answers to this

[Graeme Dice]

I say yes. I'm not worried about Phoenixes with boots of the behemoth.

[Calahan]

I'd generally be pretty easy either way on the Phoenix vote thing. Although I do think it would be a bit harsh if someone lost their Phoenix Pretender permanently (ie. Immortal tag being ignored) due to a game bug, as that is something out of a players control. So seems unfair to punsh them because of that.

But I never fence sit, so I will vote yes for allowing a size 6 Phoenix (based on it fixing a game bug that in a perfect world wouldn't exist). I can't see what imbalance is caused by the Phoenix being size 6, apart from making them trample proof. And........

Originally Posted by Graeme Dice

..... I'm not worried about Phoenixes with boots of the behemoth.

The Phoenix doesn't have any feet So they won't be wearing any fancy footwear from this years summer collection

[Dimaz]

I think immortals can still be killed by other funny things like Votd, so adding one more makes little difference, and I'm with WL here on less changes - less trouble point. So, no to modded Phoenix.

[Stagger Lee]

I'm confused. Are we talking about the phoenix' immortality being ignored, or the prospect of a dead god who can't be called back?