MP: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. Game Over. Supplicants Triumph!

[Septimius Severus]

Originally Posted by don_Pablo

Hi,
may I join the team of Ano? (Supplicants of Set)

Hello Pablo, If ano and team have no problem, I don't see any reason why you can't join the supplicants in a noob slot. I'll pencil you in until I hear otherwise.

I am posting the BI gold version mod, the map image file (which you must have), and a vanilla version of the .map file (optional) if anyone wishes to check out connections or try out some of the starting locations. I am not putting in any starts or specstarts in this version, as where your team will be will not be known until the start. If any team desires to check out a given location (the start provinces are in the .doc file) just throw in the #starts for the nations and province locations you want (nation numbers are listed in the mapedit.pdf in the dom3 doc folder).

A few minor wording changes to the teams&themes.pdf (mostly concerning Ashdod) and looks like we may actually be able to get underway in the near future.

If you haven't signed up for the team forums yet, please stop by and register:

http://noobsvets.silverforum.net

[militarist]

I'd play, but it looks all newbie positions are taken ?

[Septimius Severus]

Originally Posted by militarist

I'd play, but it looks all newbie positions are taken ?

You can take an alternate slot on the team of your choice, there's a good chance you might be able to get in before the game gets started if someone drops or can't be located.

[ano]

Hi,
may I join the team of Ano? (Supplicants of Set)

You are welcome, don_Pablo. I'm glad our team is full now.
Guys from the Supplicants of Set, please register at the HQ forums as I already posted some things that need to be discussed there.

Septimius Severus

Any mages would need boosters to reach level 5 or 6 anyway. Yes the Moloch is a good fighter, but my decisions were based on what is thematic for the team as a whole not specifically Abyssia. I say we stick with what we got so far, to keep things straightforward and streamlined. We can't get every single pretender in under the system, but I think we've got enough to choose from that are thematic for the team as a whole.

Actually it is a matter of balance and roleplaying. If you want more balance, roleplaying will suffer and vice versa. In my opinion, though roleplaying is nice, balance is always more important because it provides an interesting game. That's only my experience and feeling, of course, and it is too early to discuss yet.

[Septimius Severus]

Originally Posted by ano

Actually it is a matter of balance and roleplaying. If you want more balance, roleplaying will suffer and vice versa. In my opinion, though roleplaying is nice, balance is always more important because it provides an interesting game. That's only my experience and feeling, of course, and it is too early to discuss yet.

Correct. The game has a heavy emphasis on roleplaying, balance is more a secondary goal of mine. (i.e. I don't want to see a death bless on the blood team, or a blood bless on the death team, or an astral bless on any team but the Usurpers or the merc, and so forth). It's sort of a balance between enabling possibly beneficial contributory paths on pretenders and preserving each teams advantages as much as initially possible. As it stands, with pretender magic limited to primary and secondary paths, a few pretenders namely (Bakemono Kunshu, Carrion Dragon, Vamp Queen, Dracolich and Bog Mummy) fall outside of these parameters. That's not to say they cannot be added with certain restrictions at some point, but I say the simpler the better.

[Septimius Severus]

Main post files updated, added map files and BI mod.

All restrictions on Ashdod have been lifted since a nature bless for COC is currently a non issue.

[ano]

All pretenders: When designing pretenders, all nations and teams are restricted to magic in their
team's primary and secondary paths.

Sorry. This is a harsh change that is hardly acceptable. I already built a strategy and a guide for our team and changes like this really make me lose enthusiasm. Even although it affects our opponents even more than us, I am strongly against this and have to further think if I'm going to play under such settings.

p.s. I understand a "no-rainbow" setting but not this. Sorry. A compromise between roleplaying and Dominions should be found. Also, what your pretender is for if he can do nothing?
p.p.s. It would be nice if we could stop changing rules or at least stop changing them so drastically.

[NooBliss]

Well, he can manage some high-level rituals... Nature bless is good, too... Other than that, yes, our pretender choices do suck. : ))))

At least they are immortal!

[ano]

Thought a bit more and decided that I can't accept these changes so if they are kept, I will leave. I joined a game with a rules clearly stated in a pdf. I liked these rules and thus joined. Yesterday pdf changed with some pretenders added, some removed etc. Ok, I could live with it but I had to change my plans a bit. Today I again find updated pdf with another, this time really harsh change, and I'm not sure what I will find tomorrow.

Once again, sorry for that.

p.s. Natpy will 99% leave either.

[chrispedersen]

Let me second the notion: removing the restrictions on ashdod is a bad idea.