Night of the Long Knives?

[Strider]

The only explanation I will add to this discussion, is that this decision was not made in-the-heat-of-the-moment. This has been an ongoing problem for quite some time, that all the moderators have been in on. I supported the decision that was made. I have no personal interest in this situation, so I was able to base my opinion on what has transpired over time. A number of you are pointing to one or two PM references...this is not the entire picture.

This thread is being left open, for the time being, to allow people to get this out of their system. But, some are pushing it and trying to use it for a free-for-all. Stay on topic and keep your opinions civil.

[Rookierookie]

everybody would understand if you banned somebody who did not invest any time into the game

So a nobody should get perm-banned for the same things then?

[Maerlande]

Originally Posted by Strider

The only explanation I will add to this discussion, is that this decision was not made in-the-heat-of-the-moment. This has been an ongoing problem for quite some time, that all the moderators have been in on. I supported the decision that was made. I have no personal interest in this situation, so I was able to base my opinion on what has transpired over time. A number of you are pointing to one or two PM references...this is not the entire picture.

This thread is being left open, for the time being, to allow people to get this out of their system. But, some are pushing it and trying to use it for a free-for-all. Stay on topic and keep your opinions civil.

Honestly dude. Who the heck are you? I have NEVER seen you participate in anything on this dominions forum so how can you possibly have an intelligent opinion about Sombre? I suppose it's possible you just lurk around like some kind of sekret mod guru, but get real. If you want us to take you seriously you should at least have some reputation amongst this community. And I sure can't figure out why you supporting this decision should matter to me.

And this threat is sweet. "Play nice or we'll delete you" Get it out of our systems? That is so pompous it makes me vomit. This isn't my system.

Let's get real. It's pretty bloody common practice amongst professional associations that discipline is transparent. In my association, they even publish that you didn't pay your dues.

Bah. I can't even articulate my disgust with your post Strider. It's drivel. You jump in to basically say "Look dudes, I'm god. STFU or we'll discipline you too"

[Foodstamp]

The forum is littered with public instances where Sombre has been "not so nice". The last modding thread I interacted with him in he kept freaking out because he didn't think we were answering the original poster's question properly. Ultimately the original poster responded and said we were answering exactly what he was asking.

Here is the thread:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=45313

A quick search of his replies would bring up similar threads where he was basically trying to e-bully people for god knows what reasons.

[Maerlande]

Naw. Foodstamp he was just ebullying you because he doesn't like you.

[Maerlande]

Annette. In some previous posts you stated you would not discuss why you banned Sombre. Now you are discussing it.

Perhaps you aren't quite understanding that it's exactly that sort of talk tha offends us poor peons who just use these forums to play dominions.

If you aren't going to talk about it DON'T. If you are, don't say you won't.

[militarist]

The best way, from my opinion is just unban him without any explanations and warnings and consider it not as a faliure of administration and dangerous achievement of users community which can lead to something extremely terrible which doesn't come to my poor imagination. And start following your own rules - no permabanning before temp bans. Ideally no permabanning at all. If someone was tempobanned 3 times, and still returns and makes new mods ... yes, I would give him 4th tempoban. As exclusion. And then 5th, etc. If he is such a maniac that he returns each time and makes new mods - Shrapnel should be just proud of it. It means he is a very loyal citizen of Shrapnel world. It's pretty cool. And sometimes people with lack of communication skills, if they have weight in community, they DESERVED it. And, having weight in community DE-FACTO in comparison with many admin's DE JURE means a lot. We are young people, we like democracy and fun. If we were serous old farts in a costumes who think too much about rules we wouldn't play computer games at all.

Please make this world, which you create for us (I hope so!) a pleasant place for US, even if it in this case will be less pleasant for you, those who regulate. You are earning money for being in this world. And we are - not. We are here only because of pleasure and only for it.

If you say you banned Sombre not for yourself, but for community...I didn't hear much voices from unpaid community users who would support you. That's a reality.

[Lingchih]

Thanks to the Mods for not banning me, and allowing this discussion to continue. It does have it's place on the board.

[Frozen Lama]

i guess she ran out of drivel to spout and is now reusing her old rhetoric. once again - why no temp bans if it was a continual problem?

[rdonj]

Sombre is hardly the only person with discipline problems on this board... not including maerlande, who has finally gotten his. Sure took him an awful lot of effort to get it, in comparison.