MP: Apotheosis [Running]

[Finalgenesis]

Originally Posted by 13lackGu4rd

I'm popping your bubble because you're already using your own propaganda before the game even begun, and are trying to use it to affect pregame decisions(such as the number of players in the game).

now, propaganda aside, you chose to be an UW nation, you know what you get from it. don't try to squeeze hidden advantages from game settings due to playing what you chose to play...

Wow, that's some heavy popping my friend. I fear I have no choice but to defend myself. Allow me to disagree with you:

- Influencing events for my gain? Sure, If you’re a player in the game I don’t see why your not allowed to bring relevant information to people's attention for your gain. And I see it all the time, ex. Asking for Ashod not to be in a game (as valid as it may be); suggesting a 2nd UW nation to be allowed as a single UW is more powerful/annoying; doing counter-propaganda ...etc, frankly I think at least for propaganda and counter propaganda you can wring some good fun out of it at least. I suppose I can sort of see how this is a grey area, but I'm not really seeing this clear line that your implying.

- I've never complained about my starting circumstances as your saying, in fact I thought I made it clear, no, emphasized that I wanted the nation precisely because of it. Whine? Never! Manipulate events for my benefit? Of course! (I'm no saint)

- Honestly, as I've said before, the 11 or 12 player deal didn't really mattered to me, though I won't deny that I'd accept a 12 ppl game with a smile. I was more interested in getting my analysis of the UW nations situation out for propaganda value in diplomacy at game start. (Though it's an honest analysis on my part, I just might as well wring some propaganda value out of it)

- If anything, I am closer to raising honest analysis to give my opening diplomacy more room when the game start. Let me see if I understand this correctly, the "Do not-s" that you are pointing out is that I'm doing this before the game starts?

-In a way, all those post asking for strats and so forth from players about to start MP games are in the same vein as my analysis here. I see the same MP game participants join the thread and work with the post alongside the poster, and I'd laugh if someone told me there's no scheming and tactical maneuvering in those post, the difference is perhaps I just come right out and say it.

Maybe I was misreading your the tone from your post and your really just playing along through counter-propaganda, if so I apologize, otherwise though I really must beg to differ.

Honestly I'm just trying to have fun and thought I have done it in an acceptable manner as outlined above. I will hereby thank Amadamus for being a good sport and playing along Yes I tried, maybe I tried too hard?