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					Originally Posted by ghoul31  my partner alpine joe has disappeared , so Ironhawk decided to kick me out of the game instead of finding me another partner.whatever. I'm done with these team games. They are always a disaster.
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 Anyway, I have some sympathy, but ghoul31 - if you'd replaced your teammate *yourself*, you'd be fine.  I wasn't assigned a teammate, I went and found myself one.  And if Calahan had found Jesus or gotten pregnant or become a street-wise trashtalking heroin dealer or whatever it is they do in Great Britain and her overseas dependencies when they self-destruct, I wouldn't have *wanted* to delay the game if there was another team ready to step in and replace me.
 
 For that matter, you could've submitted the second pretender, or in some way taken the initiative in making sure you didn't delay the game!  Which you didn't, so, not so much sympathy!
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 hmmm... kaliasa joined prep2. I though they were going to replace this nation by LA Ctis.It looks like it's alpine Joe from ex-team, as he sent today a message in lunar sea.
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					Originally Posted by DrPraetorious  And if Calahan had found Jesus or gotten pregnant or become a street-wise trashtalking heroin dealer or whatever it is they do in Great Britain and her overseas dependencies when they self-destruct,...
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					Originally Posted by ghoul31  my partner alpine joe has disappeared , so Ironhawk decided to kick me out of the game instead of finding me another partner.whatever. I'm done with these team games. They are always a disaster.
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That said, let me reiterate, so that there is no possibility for confusion:  You are responsible for you and your teammate's slot in this game.  We're all adults and I'm not going to coddle you and hold your hand.  If either team position should become vacant it is up to you to fill it - this is standard practice for all MP games. |  
	
		
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 Don't let ghoul annoy you, he has a tendency to be abrasively self centered.  Thanks for the work you're putting into admining a game you're not playing and shame, shame, shame on the players who are making it more work than it should be.  The rest of us really appreciate the effort you're putting in! 
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					Originally Posted by Ironhawk   We're all adults and I'm not going to coddle you and hold your hand.  If either team position should become vacant it is up to you to fill it - this is standard practice for all MP games. |  Actually, quite a few players are not adults.
 
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					Originally Posted by DrPraetorious  Anyway, I have some sympathy, but ghoul31 - if you'd replaced your teammate *yourself*, you'd be fine.  I wasn't assigned a teammate, I went and found myself one.  And if Calahan had found Jesus or gotten pregnant or become a street-wise trashtalking heroin dealer or whatever it is they do in Great Britain and her overseas dependencies when they self-destruct, I wouldn't have *wanted* to delay the game if there was another team ready to step in and replace me. |  Have you been following me Dr.P? Or hired a Private Detective to learn all about me? Since your knowledge of my real life habits, beliefs, chosen career path, and current status is extremely impressive. 
 
Guess I'd better start taking this game serious now then if that is the case, since I'm guessing I won't want to learn the consequences of what happens if I put in a bad performance. So I'll send Jesus out to score my deals from now on, meaning I can sit at home with my baby-bump growing while getting some quality Dominions time in. Let us all Hail the Lord, and seek his forgiveness    
I was trying to guess who the missing team were. And it came down to a choice between a team with players I didn't really know (limited choice), or someone being a complete arse (one choice). For the latter, I then had to think "who's well known for being a complete and utter arse?".
 
Praise Jesus, for it was ghoul being the arse yet again.
 
@ Trumanator - Our challenge is still on you know, as you have yet to provide any negative examples of non-twattyness from ghoul. While yet another positive example of it can be seen here. I have no doubt the scales will soon be breaking.
			
			
			
			
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 I was just waiting waiting on on Alpine Joe to send his pretender in, then the next thing I know I was kicked out of the game. But if you are all just going to call me me names, you can all kiss my ***. I'm done with this thread. |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by Calahan   Praise Jesus, for it was ghoul being the arse yet again.. |  
again, it was Alpine Joe who didn't send in his pretender, and yet I wind up the bad guy.
 
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 Really, you don't see that your teammate cannot submit pretender for over a week? It looks like you did not even tell Ironhawk you have a problem with contacting him. It looks like you made no effort to get a chance to look for another teammate. Ironhawk is game admin, he is responsible for smooth running of the game. He is not responsible for looking subs, contactinc your teammate instead of you. Game got postponed a lot already, so we are all happy that he is doing everything to start it ASAP. Somehow there was enough time for PMs from Ironhawk about missing pretenders, posts here nagging people, my post about needed replacement for one player or whole team and 2 people forming new team and volunteering to play it. |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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