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Old July 27th, 2010, 04:09 PM
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The enemy does have a big tech adv, its 2010 and Ive just struggled but won against the South in a 2 visibility battle where they have more and better vision/TI. Ill try and locate first as well with my Hind gunships and Paras + Para FO, then leather them with my artillery and also a smoke screen, should N Korean 240mm MRL(rockets) work as good as these Russian flame rockets?
This is, I think, an interesting point that you inadvertently raise. The current 240mm rounds are available only in HE variety but I overlooked that an incendiary one is available according to Jane's, I will research it further.
It would certainly be a worthwhile addition to compensate for other north korean deficiencies especially as the P'okpoong-ho, one of the very few remaining high tech assets, will have to be toned down considerably.
You will probably have to fight in a way not much different from what the north koreans would fight, mainly with infantry, special forces and tons of artillery; armor would be used in a limited and careful way, as without TI and with insufficient armor and firepower tanks would become tracked coffins really fast.

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The enemy does have a big tech adv, its 2010 and Ive just struggled but won against the South in a 2 visibility battle where they have more and better vision/TI. Ill try and locate first as well with my Hind gunships and Paras + Para FO, then leather them with my artillery and also a smoke screen, should N Korean 240mm MRL(rockets) work as good as these Russian flame rockets?
This is, I think, an interesting point that you inadvertently raise. The current 240mm rounds are available only in HE variety but I overlooked that an incendiary one is available according to Jane's, I will research it further.
It would certainly be a worthwhile addition to compensate for other north korean deficiencies especially as the P'okpoong-ho, one of the very few remaining high tech assets, will have to be toned down considerably.
You will probably have to fight in a way not much different from what the north koreans would fight, mainly with infantry, special forces and tons of artillery; armor would be used in a limited and careful way, as without TI and with insufficient armor and firepower tanks would become tracked coffins really fast.
Would be nice to have the extra firepower, I checked after what Imp said, I think he means the Smerch MRL 300mm with 90 kill 12 warhead, I have a M1991 240mm 43/9 .

Would be a shame to lessen the Pokpung ho as its quite formidable but if its for realism then fair play.

Its the only tank that can take a hit and has decent vision. But its expensive and I have only got 4, having built up the force with the leftover repair points, I used Harder to simulate the lack of spares and NK economy. The Chonma Hos have a decent gun but get ripped apart with one shot from a K1 and the light tanks are only for ranged infantry fighting if there is no anti tank around.

Its been a good game, a bit of a challenge. Its all infantry like you say with the Light inf being my favourite all round unit. Basically I use plenty of arty, then light inf and just use rifle sections to hold ground and the Fagot ATGM. The snipers with 40 vision are useful and Im a big fan of the Koksan SPA. Tanks are just used to peep over the hill when the enemy is suppressed and have a crack at their armor. Using the Hinds and Paras to terrorise the enemy arty behind the lines.

Ive had 5 battles so far against US and SK, all marginal victories.
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Would be nice to have the extra firepower, I checked after what Imp said, I think he means the Smerch MRL 300mm with 90 kill 12 warhead, I have a M1991 240mm 43/9 .

Would be a shame to lessen the Pokpung ho as its quite formidable but if its for realism then fair play.

Its the only tank that can take a hit and has decent vision. But its expensive and I have only got 4, having built up the force with the leftover repair points, I used Harder to simulate the lack of spares and NK economy. The Chonma Hos have a decent gun but get ripped apart with one shot from a K1 and the light tanks are only for ranged infantry fighting if there is no anti tank around.

Its been a good game, a bit of a challenge. Its all infantry like you say with the Light inf being my favourite all round unit. Basically I use plenty of arty, then light inf and just use rifle sections to hold ground and the Fagot ATGM. The snipers with 40 vision are useful and Im a big fan of the Koksan SPA. Tanks are just used to peep over the hill when the enemy is suppressed and have a crack at their armor. Using the Hinds and Paras to terrorise the enemy arty behind the lines.

Ive had 5 battles so far against US and SK, all marginal victories.
That because the P'okpoong-ho was, at least to the public, an unknown quantity until few months ago; little was known except that the NKs supposedly had a new tank.
The RUMINT had it as a T-72 derivative, but some pictures of it have finally emerged: it appears nothing more than a Ch'onma-Ho with extra armor, some automotive changes and perhaps some limited FC update. Still it has no TI and gun still seems to be only a 115mm.
In the previous versions of the game there used to be several high tech toys such as T-80Us, BMP-3s, various assorted vehicles with TI etc. but these have been eliminated because the NKs never actually had them (it is only South Korea which does operate T-80Us), as far as one can be sure about anything when it comes to a place like that.
Infantry based units with TI have been left, under the reasoning that sort of stuff is cheaper to buy, easier to smuggle around and a thermal camera in the hands of SF/recon/FO is more likely to cause damage than inside some old tank which is going to die under cluster bombs or shot to pieces.
Of course one cannot be 100% sure but it is know they do some shopping for their SF equipment, IIRC a shipment of foreign made sniper rifles for their SFs was intercepted not a long time ago.
The north koreans have been emphasizing infantry, special forces and mobile artillery in an ever increasing manner in the last decades, because it is the best bang they can get out of their very few bucks. Nukes too, but that's outside the scope of the game.
I was also thinking that the NK SFs could use some improvements, but details on organization are sketchy and contradictory, though Bermudez is publishing some useful articles on a monthly basis.
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