History Question

[Imp]

I am going to beg to differ, game class yes its a heavy APC but how it is capable of being used in my eyes makes it an IFV.
PBV302 came 10 years later & is horrible the cannon is very short range, previous model 301 I would rather be in virtualy any USSR APC because they are at least an equal match for it & are better vs troops.
I am thinking its got nearly 10 years till the BMP-1 comes on the scene in which it dominates. Just checked & its replaced by the Marder a few years after the BMP-1 arrives.
Why is it an IFV my tanks have hardly fired at any enemy APCs or troops because the HS30 has dealt with them, try that in a PBV302 or any other APC prior to the BMP-1 which I always thought was the birth of IFVs. Even my infantry are doing little apart from in confined terrain its more like fighting as modern USA without TI.

[Arralen]

Looks to me the HS-30 is thoroughly overrated in the OOB.

The infamous HS-30, the ****tiest vehicle ever to serve in any german army since Arminius, ...
My grand uncle could rant endlessly about these things, especially since he often compared them to the SPW 251 his plattoon had in WW2 or the US M3 halftracks they had in 1955.
Using them as hard targets is perhaps the best service they ever rendered to Germany.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...=1#post4287420

For the political background around the HS-30 scandal (yes, scandal !), look here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sch%C3%...zer_Lang_HS.30
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/HS-30-Skandal
http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-46209459.html

Basically, it was:
- undermotorized
- cramped
- prone to mechanical failure : if everything, like M3 and Marder, have surv. 3, and M113 has 4, then this thing deserves a 2 - sadly there's not flag for "mechanics break apart when stressed by hit or normal (for a tank) use", ...
- "crew" was 3, "carry" was 4-5, not 10 ! http://i3.tinypic.com/volegy.jpg

Oh, and I suspect it's either "HS-30" or "HS 30", but something like "HS.30" would be absolutly unusual in german.