Wishlist: Suppression: HMGs verses Artillery and Infantry

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Originally Posted by Griefbringer

Speaking of the ammo available for a squad MG, historically a British rifle section would have around 1000 reserved for their Bren gun, and their German equivalent would pack around the same amount of ammo for their MG. US rifle squad would have around 500 rounds for their BAR.

I've seen reputable figures for ammo carried at:

Bren 1000
MG34 1150
MG42 1150
BAR 640

The Bren, Squad MG34/42 and BAR each have 80 ammo units assigned.

But the MG34/42 have about double the KILL value. I assume this is because the German MGs have about double the rate of fire.

I think it's sensible that those weapons get higher KILL values, but to achieve that KILL value they should be using up ammo at twice the rate!

Currently the Germans get the benefit of their weapons (high rate of fire/KILL) but the allies don’t get the benefit of their weapons (low rate of fire/low ammo usage).

If we ignore historical ammo load-outs as ‘paper levels’ - and assume that in reality all squads carried the same amount (as much ammo as was sensible) - but took into account KILL/ammo use, then ammo load-outs might look like this:

Bren (kill 5) AMMO: 80

MG34 (kill 8) AMMO: 56

MG42 (kill 10) AMMO: 40

BAR (kill 5) AMMO: 80


If we were to use historical ammo load-outs then they might look like this:

Bren (kill 5) AMMO: 67

MG34 (kill 8) AMMO: 48

MG42 (kill 10) AMMO: 38

BAR (kill 5) AMMO: 43


The same KILL/ammo disparity exists for the 30cal tri-pod MGs. The Germans get KILL 10, the US/UK get KILL 5.



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