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January 8th, 2012, 03:12 PM
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Re: The FASTBOAT Patch page.
Don,
I think I follow that older tanks etc. will have the negative factor applied while newer ones will have the positive factor applied if we keep this in the KISS frame of mind for guys like me. What I'll simply do is provide the info as to type (If any applied to the tank or other.) without comment and let you do the math. This way there'll be a record of it to avoid or minimise any further discussion of a piece of equipment down the road. In another words I'll try to make the package more complete as I started doing to include ATGW self protection equipment last year.
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Pat
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January 12th, 2012, 04:20 AM
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Re: The FASTBOAT Patch page.
Don,
1. Started on the items as discussed, if you have time for them at the start of next month. I know!?! 
2. Need clarification of the following like myself this could be a "teachable moment" for others as well; just finished OPLOT issues for Ukraine and Thailand. Using Ukraine Units 061-063. What is meant by the following:
061 OPLOT (V)
062 OPLOT (R)
063 OPLOT (VR)
For the record recommending 062 for deletion for other reasons beyond the lettering question, and think one more for redundancy reasons unless those letters mean something I'm missing looking at Mobhack Editor.
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Pat
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January 12th, 2012, 08:50 AM
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Re: The FASTBOAT Patch page.
061 OPLOT (V)-------- Has VIRSS , NO reactive armour
062 OPLOT (R)-------- Has reactive armour, NO VIRSS
063 OPLOT (VR)------ Has both reactive armour AND VIRSS
This allows them to be bought in any configuation
Don
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January 13th, 2012, 02:40 AM
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Re: The FASTBOAT Patch page.
Note to self-listen to CINCLANTHOME more often.  You see I've been told not too over analyze things when the answer is right in front of me at times.  So with that in mind-thanks Don!
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Pat
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January 14th, 2012, 09:47 PM
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Re: The FASTBOAT Patch page.
It makes alot sense,if you consider the world economics,there will be little improvements if any at all in arms development.
France just lost it's high credit rating also,expect the the rest of Euro's will soon follow
There is serious debate on the US congress floor and those that want to take command in the white house, on serious decreasing of defense spending,and more on making more jobs,but this is maybe purely political camoflage.
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January 22nd, 2012, 04:19 PM
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Re: The FASTBOAT Patch page.
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A1. ADD/RUSSIA/TORNADO MRLS/APR 2011/C2/6 or 12 ML 300mm SMERCH Rockets/These are updated versions of the SMERCH rocket that are GPS guided. It can carry multiple munitions types and can still launch the unguided versions. The key here is the improved operability of the system from the launcher which is much more manueverable, air mobile and much easier and faster to reload. This is the replacement for the BM-21 GRAD which is taking place at this time. The Max. range is 70km and 90km with a specilized rocket.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/russi...formation.html
See Page 3 Post #30 Item #2
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In game terms the differences between that and the existing Smerch are too minor to bother with.
Don
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January 22nd, 2012, 04:38 PM
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Re: The FASTBOAT Patch page.
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C1. TURKEY/LEOPARD-1A3T1/UNIT 035/CHANGE/DATES to SEP 1982-DEC 2020/As noted above in para./Total ordered 77 MBT + 4 ARV. All operational units NOT converted to the LEOPARD-1T.
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However as with all the Turkish LEOPARD tanks they are still in service today
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...Pat, there are ammo upgrades made which means it's a waste of time to simply extend Turk Leo 1s to 2020 because the older versions are carrying old ammo and that's why the Leopard 1A3 T2 is set up to run alone from 1/110 with the latest ammo upgrade. If the T1 versions are indeed still in service then they need to be copied and have the latest gun added into weapon slot 1 but with all the change this and change that I'm not clear on when you are suggesting the Leo 1's first made it to Turkey. It *appears* to be SEP 1982
Don
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January 22nd, 2012, 05:18 PM
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Re: The FASTBOAT Patch page.
Don,
The Turkish LEO 1 tanks are definitely still in service of this I have no doubts about at all based on the volume of refs pointing to it besides what I supplied. However if you feel the issue is similar to the M-60 Rise issue of a couple of years ago which also dealt with ammo and gun issues, 1) We can leave it as is like back then or 2) Maybe increase the service life as you feel comfortable doing based on your current info and notes to reduce your work load. The other Turkish LEO issues are more important to me and to be perfectly honest for the weeks put into just that "rabbit hole" and with all due respect; I'll have to break out my entrenching tools!?! See Pg. 1 Post #3 A3. and Pg.2 Posts #14 - #17 (Didn't remember until I just checked previous; on Turkish LEO Pg. 1 Post #3 M3. - C6.) in this thread as a reminder of that M-60 situation, as always I'll defer to your decisions since based on the body of the work submitted in this area of my passion for the game I really can't complain about the overall results I've had thus far. For this I'm grateful for in doing the above and maintaining a professional working situation.
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Pat
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January 22nd, 2012, 10:36 PM
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Re: The FASTBOAT Patch page.
I'm going to go over all the Leo 1 changes again tomorrow because after all the add-this-change-that-delete-this-add-that there appears to be some serious problems with T1 units going to 2020 but no T2's
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January 23rd, 2012, 01:44 AM
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Re: The FASTBOAT Patch page.
Don,
Three weeks on the first half alone a month off for the middle section and start of the last probably 7-8 to weeks alone between life issues just to get through the volume of refs to get about a 90+% consensus of all the sources. Bottom line it was the toughest equipment issue to date for me and there fore I would prefer you not to get bogged down here based on everything else on your plate. The last two Turkish LEO issues are easier to deal with and are more straight forward I hope and think. Would rather the other items on PP #65 go first as they are also more to the point if you will. And did I mention about three pages of legal paper with the complete Turkish LEO OOB UNITS on it as well to compare against those refs!?!  Ping Pong balls come to my mind right now or better a tennis match. The clock ticks on unfortunitly and it can wait besides after today on here and there I owe CINCLANTHOME a day away from the house with a nice dinner and I know you can relate. If we have time at the end we can hit it and as the CORPS would say "GIT SUM" ALONG WITH SOME  while we're at it. So as I save the following for motivaition and aimed at this issue I leave with this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM82Vuq3PdM
Followed by a fine Irish song and one for the Scotsman across the pond as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdxgn...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do_o5...layer_embedded
I love the pipes that's why I had them at my retirement. I hope you all will enjoy the interlude.
Now I ramble so off to the shower and a good nights sleep.
After...
Regards,
Pat
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