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November 21st, 2010, 08:07 PM
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Re: Rambo Squad Alert !
Not sure if it deserves a new thread so...
I noticed (don't remember their name now, but current date German OOB) they have 1-2 infantry squads who also carry a milan (one is the KSK but I think there is another one) and can fire their milan after moving the same turn, and/or counter attack with their milan although they are shown as moving at 4 or 6 mph. (when they are opponents).
I don't have much personal experience with them, but is it intended to have them (and perhaps similar squads from other OOBs if there are any) able to fire like that?
Just curious.
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November 22nd, 2010, 03:15 PM
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Re: Rambo Squad Alert !
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Originally Posted by Wdll
Not sure if it deserves a new thread so...
I noticed (don't remember their name now, but current date German OOB) they have 1-2 infantry squads who also carry a milan (one is the KSK but I think there is another one) and can fire their milan after moving the same turn, and/or counter attack with their milan although they are shown as moving at 4 or 6 mph. (when they are opponents).
I don't have much personal experience with them, but is it intended to have them (and perhaps similar squads from other OOBs if there are any) able to fire like that?
Just curious.
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Actualy I have noticed something similar but with ATGM teams, cant remember sides but Dragon ATGM type II I think. Got a surprise as they had moved but when I fired at them after a shot or 2 they decided to return fire. Side was possibly Saudia Arabia
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November 22nd, 2010, 05:29 PM
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Re: Rambo Squad Alert !
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Originally Posted by Wdll
Not sure if it deserves a new thread so...
I noticed (don't remember their name now, but current date German OOB) they have 1-2 infantry squads who also carry a milan (one is the KSK but I think there is another one) and can fire their milan after moving the same turn, and/or counter attack with their milan although they are shown as moving at 4 or 6 mph. (when they are opponents).
I don't have much personal experience with them, but is it intended to have them (and perhaps similar squads from other OOBs if there are any) able to fire like that?
Just curious.
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Actualy I have noticed something similar but with ATGM teams, cant remember sides but Dragon ATGM type II I think. Got a surprise as they had moved but when I fired at them after a shot or 2 they decided to return fire. Side was possibly Saudia Arabia
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One of the Saudis leaders likely managed a "Heroic Rally" trying to remove your suppression. Extremely rare, but can happen even at low troop quality.
An HR returns move points & shots to full, so that will allow them to pull off an ATGM shot in reply to your incoming.
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November 22nd, 2010, 06:21 PM
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Re: Rambo Squad Alert !
Okay Andy learn something new all the time.
Almost sure that is what happened I thought at the time it seemed like they had taken fire & thought enough was enough so retaliated somehow.
Looks like that was indeed the case
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Re: Rambo Squad Alert !
Hmm in the Austria OOB, the Jagdkommando (which are the austrian Special forces) have 2 types of Units:
One equipped with:
STG 77
Hand Grenade
MG74
Satchel charge
The second type has:
STG 77
Hand Grenade
MG74
Panzerfaust3
I think its okay, I take the satchel JagdKommando if I want to do real commando missions with them, so blowing up bunkers or enemy Rara AA Guns etc behind enemy lines.
But if I have no intentions in such commando missions, it makes sense to take the second alternative, the Panzerfaust 3 instead of satchels.
Then the JagdKommando is a support Unit for standart infantry missions as every jaegergruppe does.
I think you should change the KSK same way, if you intend to use the KSK squad for fighting like standart infantry, give them Panzerfaust 3 instead of MILAN.
If you want to use them as defense unit against armoured targets, use a MILAN equipped KSK Squad (which then should have not an MG3. Instead of this, there should be another KSK Squad covering the Milan Squad.
The third KSK Squad Type should then be a demolitions squad.
Maybe a fourth option with a heavy sniper for scouting duties behind enemy lines would be somewhat realistic too, but this sorts of operations are usually the work for Fernspäher.
In reality the standart KSK Squad is:
1x Medic
1x Demolitions Expert
1x Radio Expert
1x Weapons Expert
The standart weapon loadout usually contains "light" weapons. the Milan is not a standart weapon, it will never be, because a MILAN needs at least 2 (if not 3) operatives to carry the weapons+equipment+ammo.
I give you a hint: change them to somewhat realistic squads, I did the same for the Austrian OOBs, where I have found so many errors meanwhile, that I had to undertake massive changes to austrian OOB.
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