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Old December 17th, 2010, 12:12 PM
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Just final thing (it really is one of those days) logging off and on brought my taskbar back. No need for shutdown restart.
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Did you try right clicking & refreshing to bring the taskbar back?
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Just tried the fix and it worked. EXCEPT, when I exited the program I lost all of my desktop and icons and everything I tried failed. The only thing that worked was to restart my system. So, for me this didn't work, is there a way to fix lossing my desktop, what I see is happening is that it's closing explorer and not restarting it. Hope this helps.
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Don - Just finished downloading and installing everything, including the palette fix.

Works great...No palette issues, no weird lag effect, real full screen.

But I too ran into the exiting or alt-tabbing loses desktop bug.

I screwed up and randomly picked a scenario for the first test run with all installed. Forgot to set fast arty, you just know that randomly selected scenario had a lot of pre-game arty. It was still firing when I got back from the store an hour later...

I'll poke around a bit more tonight

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Multiple exits, no issues. Might have been a one time thing.

Haven't tried ALT-tab again, yet. That's next.

Full screen looks great (still can't see some stuff in snow maps).

Some wierd lag like effects in moving the cursor between certain sections of the main screen, also in moving units around (but not as badly as last time I tested). It's really noticible when full map scrolling. The units themselves, including strike and recon units aren't rubberbanding or freezing while moving any longer either.

It's very much playable now (if a bit frustrating with large numbers of units to move around). (edit: THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU!)

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Don - Just finished downloading and installing everything, including the palette fix.
I'm confused, what exactly do you mean by "everything, including the palette fix"

There was only the one beta fix that contained an experimental GameOptions.exe that ran our version of NCrawlers command line file.

Are you refering to the widecreen beta as well as the original NCrawler fix ?

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Just tried the fix and it worked. EXCEPT, when I exited the program I lost all of my desktop and icons and everything I tried failed. The only thing that worked was to restart my system. So, for me this didn't work, is there a way to fix lossing my desktop, what I see is happening is that it's closing explorer and not restarting it. Hope this helps.
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amd 6870
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All the experimental gameotions fix does is launch ncrawler's .cmd (ie Microsoft's new name for .BAT files)file.

1) It is for FULL SCREEN PALETTE problem fixing/testing. Therefore - running the test gameoptions is worthless in windowed mode.

2) It kills Explorer - deliberately - since Explorer messes with the 256 colour palette in windows 7. (In Windowed mode, the game's graphics library does not use a palletised graphics mode).

3) It relaunches windows exploder after the game is exited. This should restore the desktop icons etc.

4) Therefore - it is a shell to execute the game in full screen, avoiding the Windows 7/Vista problems with hijacking the 256 colour palette. So while running the batch file - do not try to alt-tab out of the game, since explorer is killed while running it, so you will not have any icons etc. to click.
Exit the game, and thus the batch file session if you require to use windows.

All of this can be seen by simply right-clicking on the batch file (Win7SPMBT.cmd) in explorer and selecting the edit option:

taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe <-- Nuke Exploder
winSPMBT.exe <-- Run the game
Start explorer.exe <-- restart exploder

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Don - This is/was a fresh download, with all the patches, plus the wide screen beta fix.

I may have also DL'ed NCrawlers fix prior to the beta (I'm guessing the beta would overwrite that?). It's not in my notes, so its possible I may have thought about it and then skipped right to the beta.

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Don - This is/was a fresh download, with all the patches, plus the wide screen beta fix.

I may have also DL'ed NCrawlers fix prior to the beta (I'm guessing the beta would overwrite that?). It's not in my notes, so its possible I may have thought about it and then skipped right to the beta.
The NCrawler uses a different cmd file that starts the games EXE directly but that bypasses the Game Options screen. The BETA fix is a GameOptions.EXE that runs the NCrawler but from slightly altered command file so no, the beta doesn't overwrite the NCrawler CMD file and if you click on it ( or ours ) the game will start without going to game Options first.

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