OT: For all the genocidal dictators...

[Growltigga]

I am a computer geek. I am sure you will have no trouble finding much ammunition to use against me in that regards. Most of it deserved I am sure.

I am actually sure that I do have significant ammunition against computer nerds (which is a bit of a surprise). I recall you mentioned you have children, so I am assuming you have been near to a female at some point in your life (or at least once). I suppose the computer nerd profession is such that it really is too boring to even make jokes about...

But you can't do that, because that is what I was doing. You hit the ball, I was merely attempting to get it back to the keeper before you got safely across the crease.

Er no, other way round I think. YOu need to reconsider who was keeping who on target [PS was your sporting analogy baseball?]

I will thank you to not lump me in with them.

I will be delighted not to lump you in with your fellow rednecks. I am also delighted to see at least one American who can rise above it.

My comments were not only bound to be emotive, they were intended to be so.

Yes, your comments were emotive but it is obvious that the mens rea behind your remarks was to make your point AGAINST the English in particular. You are aware that I recently spent a considerably amount of money watching my team play in the World Cup in Japan, and it is obvious that on this basis, you were trying to (I beleive the American phrase is) "score a point".

Given the profound fallaciousness of your remark, of course it is only a naturla reaction for us europeans to frankly lose bladder control.

Whether or not you agree it can be, or even should be attained is a point of debate. You can argue that one does not have an inalianble right to freedom of speech. I can argue one does, and that any government that attempts to restrict this right is unnatural. Debating that point does not change the nature of the goal itself.

Now, this is one of the first things you have said that actually makes sense [ducking under desk]. I do believe however that this whole debate started in analysing whether or not the United States has true Freedom of Speech and whatever you wish to tell me otherwise, we are back to this proposition.

You can stand by your statements and that is your right. I however, have had this debate dozens of times with Americans and it is interesting that the people who primarily do not believe you have true freedom of speech in the US are your attorneys. I find that interesting.

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Growltigga:
I am actually sure that I do have significant ammunition against computer nerds (which is a bit of a surprise). I recall you mentioned you have children, so I am assuming you have been near to a female at some point in your life (or at least once). I suppose the computer nerd profession is such that it really is too boring to even make jokes about...

ROFL! I'll have you know sir that I am considered something of a "stud" among my fellow computer nerds having been with two women in my lifetime.

Er no, other way round I think. YOu need to reconsider who was keeping who on target [PS was your sporting analogy baseball?]

No, this was a pathetically inept attempt at putting into cricket terms so that you would understand. I recently had occasion to catch a game, or match or whatever you call it on ESPN 8 between the Pakistani and Dominican Republic teams. It was quite interesting and has caused me to seek out additional information on the sport. If you have any direction in that regard I would appreciate it.

Yes, your comments were emotive but it is obvious that the mens rea behind your remarks was to make your point AGAINST the English in particular. You are aware that I recently spent a considerably amount of money watching my team play in the World Cup in Japan, and it is obvious that on this basis, you were trying to (I beleive the American phrase is) "score a point".

Given the profound fallaciousness of your remark, of course it is only a naturla reaction for us europeans to frankly lose bladder control.

Ah, but here you are off the mark. My comments were not aimed at English, or Europeans in particular, only at you as a football fan. The reference to body paint in your national colors was only by point of comparison. I was no more saying that all English do this than you were saying all Americans are linedancers. I could have just as easily compared linedancers to the ridiculous American Football fans that dress up in their teams regalia, but that would not given weight to my point that idiotic behavior is not limited to linedancers per se, because as both Groups are primarily made up of Americans they could in fact be the same people. And at any rate it would not have gotten a sufficient reaction out of you, which I have already admitted was at least part of the objective.

An example of a snide comment directed at persons of a specific nationality would be something like pointing out that europeans lack of bladder control is something which is beyond my means to affect. Please note that I do not make this comment except for the purposes of demonstrating the difference to you.

I do believe however that this whole debate started in analysing whether or not the United States has true Freedom of Speech and whatever you wish to tell me otherwise, we are back to this proposition.

That is in fact where you have attempted to take the debate. But the debate in fact began as a discussion of whether or not the particular offending website should be protected under the right of Freedom of Speech. You have chosen rather than to speak to this point to try and redefine whether we as Americans in fact have this right that the majority of us hold as self-evident.

You can stand by your statements and that is your right. I however, have had this debate dozens of times with Americans and it is interesting that the people who primarily do not believe you have true freedom of speech in the US are your attorneys. I find that interesting.

This I cannot speak to other than to point out that making any sort of assumption based on your discussions would be a hasty generalization, which is another logical fallacy. One would have to assume that either you have spoken to every American attorney, or that the opinions they expressed were actually their opinions and not simply polite conversation aimed at not causing you distress, or that their opinion is somehow representative of the opinion of all lawyers in the US. And even assuming those things, it is not uncommon for one that is in a certain field and well versed with it's negative aspects to become jaded to it.

[ July 16, 2002, 20:17: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

[rdouglass]

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[geoschmo]

Originally posted by rdouglass:
This is GREAT!!! WE WANT MORE...WE WANT MORE!!!!........

Heh, you are reading this? I had thought Gt and I chased everyone else out of the room by now.

Geo

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by geoschmo:

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Originally posted by rdouglass:
This is GREAT!!! WE WANT MORE...WE WANT MORE!!!!........

Heh, you are reading this? I had thought Gt and I chased everyone else out of the room by now.

Geo

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[Puke]

does that mean its 10 times more gay, or 1/10th as gay as soaps?

and do you mean "days of our lives" gay, or "90210" gay? or liberachi gay? or perhaps you meant "soap dropped in the prison showers" gay.

whichever it is, im entertained, and i have exclusively been entertained by straight porn before. unless you count lesbian porn, but im not sure this is as good as that.

oops, i was supposed to have left this topic alone. darn.

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by Puke:
does that mean its 10 times more gay, or 1/10th as gay as soaps?

and do you mean "days of our lives" gay, or "90210" gay? or liberachi gay? or perhaps you meant "soap dropped in the prison showers" gay.

whichever it is, im entertained, and i have exclusively been entertained by straight porn before. unless you count lesbian porn, but im not sure this is as good as that.

oops, i was supposed to have left this topic alone. darn.

ROFLOL That was great man. Loved it. But gay as in flaming gay, as in a gay guy going "Oh thank god for spandex!" That gay. Gay enough?