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[Finalgenesis]

I understand the argument for against going AI (and finding a sub) to be that AI basically gets steamrolled and equal free provinces for their human neighbors causing an unfair advantage to other players in differing position to exploit the spoils.

I've seen that where possible AI options tend to be for small nations with very few provinces to the point where it won't impact the game too significantly.

However we are talking about 37 provinces game leader (statistically).

For the record, I don't really care in this specific case. And really, we've had rollback and all the work, so why not add this to the list.

Finally, with the upcoming likely AI of Machaka on top of a rollback, I would like to officially bow out of this game as it has been disrupted and ruined to the point where I don't feel obligated to stick to the end.

Let me know if you want me to AI or attempt a sub.

[nrasch]

Ragnoff will now be admin. Good luck to you all.

Nathan

[Num]

Well the point is Machaka was the most powerful, but this time is ended. Do not forget that he was fighting against two nations (Shinuyama and me) during a long time, without decisive ending. Then Abysia has attacked, and is currently crushing Machakan territory, probably with ease. I have destroyed for my side at least 6 full-geared Tartarians in the last two turns and there is almost nothing left next to my armies.

Anyway this is for me simply obvious that Abysia is much more powerful than Machaka or me, or you Jotunheim, or anybody, apart from his central position, momentum and ability to eat all of Machaka alone.

So I agree to say that Ragnoff has won, but Machaka gone AI will have no effect as a result. I too vote for closing the game. Lack of interest and broken balance since the defeat of Machaka have both killed the game (Lack of a good pace has played a role too).

PS : R'lyeh has abandoned the game ? Are you sure ?

[Ragnoff]

Ah SHOOT, I had a mental short-circuit and though Finalgenesis was playing R'Lyeh!

OK, I guess that is a wrap. I don't think I have won, I think I could be stopped as Machaka was, but it would need to be a joint effort are likely soon as I am certainly gaining momentum and getting my own Tarts into play despite not having GoH or the Challis (if you summon enough of them, you get good ones).
Ragnoff

[Finalgenesis]

Originally Posted by Ragnoff

Ah SHOOT, I had a mental short-circuit and though Finalgenesis was playing R'Lyeh!

Understandable

[Ragnoff]

well remember I was not in from the start and had almost no interaction with either of you!

I would like to test out some to the things I was working on, I do not know if anyone else would as well. To this end I will let hosting resume with next turn due at 15:25 GMT on Thursday March 3rd.

If you would ALSO wish to continue turns to check anything out let me know. If you are done with the game, please set your nation to AI so that the folks messing about are not waiting on you for turns. Anyone who stales twice will be set to AI.

This is strictly unofficial, the game is officially over with Abyssia leading but no clear winner.

Thank you for letting me join in the fun!

Ragnoff

[Num]

I think you could claim victory, as nobody is able to compete, even if allied together (and do not forget our alliance is still living until Machakas end).

We are far less powerful than what you get (for what I see). I for my part have something like 10 or 12 Asynja, not fully equipped, 15 Vanjarls light equipped for raiding, and only one big stealthed army, with lots of Vanadrotts (20?) and Gnomes but few troops (no more than 35 Vans or Valkyries). 2 Queens of Air, one King of Fire, one Ember Lord, a few Zmeys, but not one unique blood big boy (but 80 storm and knight demons and 500 slaves left).

My income is low, my gem income is ok (100), plus 80 slaves a turn from costly blood hunting.
So I do not think I am a powerful contender. I have spend too much time fighting Machaka with no result other than attrition, and I have begun very lately blood hunting. The northeast corner is so poor that I have never get more than 2600 gold a turn with 40 provinces.
All the beginning of the game was great for me, with 2 good allies Jotunheim and Bandar, I had time to build a powerful nation, to beat Ermor and get room to develop and finally destroy Ulm. But later my lack of experience has let me becoming less potent than other contenders (althought MA Vanheim looks very strong to me, this is the first time I have loved that much my nation, with air, earth and blood magic, stealthed and sacred armies, very enjoyable).

Finally I regret the complete lack of a good pace of play, which have made the game fell in interest and motivation for everyone, resulting in long intervals and abandons...

Anyway, thanks to everyone who played that game for any time, congratulations Ragnoff for the game, and Lihaassa for the wedding (and being my best enemy too).