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				 "Painless" Doc Jhonson, or how to kill your commander 
 Twiceborn looks like a good deal, but i cant figure a way to kill enchant bearer with minimal risc of afflictions. Drowning doesn't seem to work - he drowns ok but doesn't ressurects. Barbarians tend to be crude surgeons leaving me with blind or feebleminded or armess/legless wights. What do you suggest? |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by Necroant  Twiceborn looks like a good deal, but i cant figure a way to kill enchant bearer with minimal risc of afflictions. Drowning doesn't seem to work - he drowns ok but doesn't ressurects. Barbarians tend to be crude surgeons leaving me with blind or feebleminded or armess/legless wights. What do you suggest? |  Some consider it an exploit but a bog beast/hydra set to guard has been used.  I had much the same issue with twiceborn way back when..
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...wiceborn+crone 
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				April 3rd, 2011, 06:34 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: "Painless" Doc Jhonson, or how to kill your commander 
 Thank you for a good idea. But what's with really tough guys like Agarthan Oracles? They don't die from poison in a reasonable time. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: "Painless" Doc Jhonson, or how to kill your commander 
 You could give them a disease with a Fever Fetish. Once they're diseased they won't heal between battles/turns anymore. Couple that with the poison trick and they're bound to wind up dead soonish at which point the disease won't affect them any more. 
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				 Re: "Painless" Doc Jhonson, or how to kill your commander 
 I should note all of these methods are likely to hand you a pile of afflictions.  I'd think barbs are 'safer'. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: "Painless" Doc Jhonson, or how to kill your commander 
 Aside from poison, I think a single soul slay or lost magic duel might have low risk?Cast regeneration first if possible?
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				 Re: "Painless" Doc Jhonson, or how to kill your commander 
 So, everything boils down to "one powerfull blow" vs "lots of small hp losses" |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: "Painless" Doc Jhonson, or how to kill your commander 
 Why do you want to change form anyway? Twiceborn is kind of an insurance policy against death, seems a shame to waste your first life deliberately. |  
	
		
	
	
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