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Old April 28th, 2011, 06:37 AM

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Default Re: How do you deal with French tanks

I recently played a campaign game against france and they actually had two of those super heavy tanks (Char 2C I think?). I immobilised one with artillery, but the other one just kept driving and killed one PII. However, being so damn slow it didn't reach any objective before the round ended
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I recently played a campaign game against france and they actually had two of those super heavy tanks (Char 2C I think?). I immobilised one with artillery, but the other one just kept driving and killed one PII. However, being so damn slow it didn't reach any objective before the round ended
In a recent campaign as the french, i had some of these in as support, i just drove them around until the game ended as german shells bounced off it's armor
There are some nice toys to play around with in the french OOB.
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Old April 28th, 2011, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: How do you deal with French tanks

You may find this post useful my attempt at taking on the French AAR starts with them straight off skipped over Poland. Mobhack gave some very useful advice in it which allowed me to prevail. Found they were surprisingly hard guys to get to route if remember correctly. Chars were not the biggest worry as a rule was those Somanas or whtever there called.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=41834
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Old April 28th, 2011, 10:13 PM

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I've been having some fun in France lately with a company of light panzers from 2nd PzDiv. The company is composed of 6 Pz Ib's, 9 Pz IIc's, and 7 Pz IIIe's. Infantry suppport is provided by a kradschutzen platoon and a pair of spaehtruppe. Needless to say the Somua's are hairy and even the H-35's aren't exactly easy

Using smoke and terrain to set ambushes, infantry close assault to suppress, and point blank fire from PzII's and PzIII's seven Somua's and five H-35's were destroyed at a cost of two PzII's. Didn't run into any Char's this battle but if necessary would deal with them the same general way, would just take longer.

I'd have loved to have used air and arty to go after the French tanks but with a core force drawn from a panzer division, those assets were needed to deal with enemy infantry.

I thought I'd throw this in because most of the ancedotes I see are for infantry heavy forces (3 : 1, infantry : armor), but in the schwerepunkt of an armor offensive that ratio is reversed. Another word for infantry heavy is 'penny packeting', as Guderian would put it, wasting the armor by dispersing it amongst the infantry rather than using it in concentration.

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You have to do what the Germans did, using French ATG, the 47mm ATG of the German OOB is french and teh Germans quicly learned how to use it..

Planes, can wipe the French tanks, a German player should always be allowed to have tons of planes and the French very few AA.
You can also use 88mm guns or 105mm field guns.
this is how the German did.
An infantry assault is near useless if you are attacking, as a German you are supposed to attack.


To give you an idea I am playing a pbem battle with 11500 points of French Vs 20000 points of Germans, the German side can have up to 30 planes!!! and i have only 6 AA gun for a max size map.
I am doomed.
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Default Re: How do you deal with French tanks

As the ROF of tanks now seem to be standardised across all the OBs all french (and all other) tanks with 37mm and 47mm guns now have a ROF of 8. Combined with their heavy armour and now having one-man turrets that operate just as well as two/three-man ones this makes them virtually unstoppable, + they are much cheaper than the german ones aswell. Try advancing a german armoured column against a french one, good luck trying to get close enough for the germans to get kills unless in woods or limited terrain, the germans will get machinecannoned to death at long range by the french 37mm and 47mm guns.
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